to back up what commissioner arsay said, the advocates are concerned about this issue of making sure the public is well informed about what they are doing including non english speakers because the last thing we would want is to get this clean energy program off the ground that alienates and turns people off. that would be tragic and mean the overall uptick into a program would be much smaller and threaten the entire program. though advocates are pushing to solve the climate crisis we are mindful it is not helpful to not reach out well to the public. a quick note on the opt-in, opt-out issue, the reason this was created as an opt-out -- barbara sort of touched on this -- is that it is kind of like politicians. i'm sure all of you have watched city hall. when the mayor appoints someone to the board of supervisors and they run for reelection it is quite frankly easier to get the public to say oh well, you know, i have seen them in action for at least a few months. i'm comfortable with this. i guessly stick with it. when you have an -- if it were just an opt-in, if we were to get the st

and consistent with commissioner arsay's comments that the department and environment has the environment now team that. portion that really is door-to-door would be more appropriate for the environment new staff, which are more directly supervised by city folks. really are entry level opportunities and don't en counter the sort of overhead that -- working through a contractor would get through this piece. i really hope this work is really, as i say, just focused on that work that staff can't do well and does support the overall programs. i hope those communities are taken in the constructive manner that they are offered in. >> thank you. commissioner, did you have questions? >> yeah, i had -- i concur mostly with those comments you said. what i would like to see it, reiterating what we asked barbara hale for is a real plan and consultant to come forward with what exactly they will be doing. seems like one of the first pieces of work is in phase i is really to figure out how we will reach the low hanging fruit, so to speak. there is also a lot of work to reach the low income communities,

it's no wonder so many investors arsaying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade.shley: earnings today from two dow components mcdonald's and general electric. certainly playing a big role in today's sell off. the dow off 217 points. sandra smith here with details in today's trade. sandra: when does mcdonald's not do well? here you have a really disappointing quarter. so mcdonald's getting hit down really hard today. it's definitely one of the biggest laggards in the dow pulling the market down. down several percent today. mcdonald's by the way also down about 10% so far this year. look, they reported profits that missed estimates, earnings per share were 143 versus 147 expected by analysts. -- 1.43 versus 1.47 expected by analysts. remember mcdonald's is large global company. got that stronger dollar, it does affect their sales. they also by the way were warning about conditions ahead. they did say that conditions ahead are uncertain. so that's leading to a big sell-off in the shares today. by the way, citigroup, oppenheimer, ubs, all coming out with notes today a