and zoological nationalists . you and let's talk about the fact that two writers, artem chek and artem chapaevhat the russians are like that. there is an event with their participation that was delivered literally in the last days there, they had to complain again. i don't mean participation , reluctance to participate in any specific events in the same room with the russians. and of course, the whole festival was meant, but the organizers apologized, admitted their mistake and canceled this event for the russians, but this did not end the conflict, because masha hesen they were supposed to take part in this event with the russians, they resigned from the post of deputy chairman of the pmerek council, and in general , masha hessen, let me remind you, moved from russia to america in 2013 , they made a good career there, their materials are published, for example, in the new yorker, why am i talking about them because they are that they are not binary, it is their right to speak. that's right. so, they not only left this position, but also gave a comment to the journalist, hm, gal beckerman, and

same time we are with you today and we will talk about the fact that two writers artem cheh and artem chapaev time, are military personnel and the director and writer iryna all went to new york for the welld voices festival. they checked in advance whether the russians would be there. they were told that there would not be, but when they arrived they found out that russians are like that. there is an event with their participation. literally in the last days there they had to complain again and what kind of victims they are, it turned out that it was just a cover-up, a misunderstanding, the organizers thought that this does not mean participation, reluctance to participate in any specific events in one in the room with the russians, of course, the whole festival was tried, but the organizers apologized, admitted their mistake and canceled this event for the russians, but this did not end the conflict, because masha hesen, they were supposed to take part in this event with the russians, resigned from the post of deputy head of the council of america, and masha hesen in general let me remind yo