he was going through.wron brea bennett thought did by abat abandonment and father figures and hats on his board arthur rockwood been a father figure, a mike markova, john sculley and they'll go around the room and vote against him and abandon him. and he really takes it hard. >> how does he recover from not? di when he talked to you about that period, pretty dark time, what did he say? >> well, he described vividly every single day of that week,he including where the food came o from when he was serving it on the patio and try to bring mikeg markova around. it is still seared into hiseah,m mind. weeke >> versus 25 years later. >> him on a daily can of 19. goes to europe, bicycles around. cave-in talks to some people i comes up with the concept ofoing doing the next computer. by the end of 85 has recruited a ws handful of people from applethit causing a lawsuit. this is really bad at this point because the board of sculley think you are stealing our next. people. and he creates the next. you know, he says to me, beingle fired at apple was the beste. happened to me. it liberated me. nex it helped me cha