arthur brooks, welcome. what were you seeking? >> it is a representative of human conscientious.he transcends a lot of the materialistic pressures. he's the most respected religious figure in the world. whether anybody likes that or not, it's the truth. he's somebody who thinks about the truth. we wanted to talk to him about many of the controversies we're seeing today, about how conscientious, free enterprise, how it all interacts. >> he called you the spiritual leader of the capital. >> one of the guests at one of our events said that. >> how do you reconcile his socialism with your capitalism? >> i asked him yet. it was a wonderful visit. i went to see him in his monastery. and i went and visited with him. i meditated for the morning. in the afternoon, we were talking and he said basically you love free intenterprise. i am a markist. i said, uh-oh. but he continued. but i do not believe in forced sharing of government. i believe in voluntary sharing as a basis of human morality. there's nothing that describes my point of view about this world better than that. >> but here's th

arthur brooke took about an hour to overwhelm an inferior force of mostly militiamen. meanwhile, british warships had was shellst mchenry weighing over 200 pounds. could bludgeon it into submission, baltimore was theirs and philadelphia was probably next. no covergh there was and the pounding went on for a day and night, nobody ran. nobody flinched. that is the extraordinary heroism of fort mchenry. the british had planned a combined naval and land attack in the dead of night. drugaval force would create offenders away from the fortified eastern hills so the british infantry would be able to charge through an capture the city. towards midnight, the naval commander sent a message to his land commander that he would not be able to help. he said his force could not penetrate the channel between fort mchenry and eliza read up -- the lazareto where americans had scuttled ships. the land commander was devastated. into his diary he later groaned, in a moment, all my hopes were blasted. if i took the place, i should have been the greatest men in england. but if i failed, my mi

. >> i want to thank arthur brooks for giving me this opportunity to propose a very large bold rethinking of both the health system and the bureaucracy in the context of the veterans administration crisis. i spent a decade as the aei family. it is always great to be back discussing ideas. i want to thank the cnn investigative team who stayed on the scandals until they broke through and became a national crisis. early on the stories were dismissed as isolated small problems. the teams continued effort grew the facts until they had to be dealt with. our thinking on the future of the veterans administration has been deeply influenced by the hard work of chairman jeff miller and their find many staffs. we are further down the road because of their help. they have worked tirelessly and against a lot of opposition to help americans veterans find a better future. i want to thank our chief researcher on the v.a. and who developed the interactive map you will see. i want to thank ross worthington for helping think through these proposals. let me say this is going to be a bold by washington standar

arthur, democrats lie, you are a first. you are on with elizabeth kneebone of the brookings institution. >> caller: good morning.he poverty situation, especially with the senior citizens, i think that the senior citizens are charged way too much for rent and stuff like that. as far as the ferguson situation, i think what's going on, it's a given subject but what's going on in iraq -- >> host: let's get to your initial comments of social security issues and things like that. elizabeth kneebone. >> guest: i think the issue of the aging population is a very important piece of this puzzle as a look at the shift in poverty. it's not as we've seen a rise, there are growing share of the elderly poor live in suburban communities that now these places are struggle with issues about how to help people ag agen place whether don't miss this have infrastructure like public? >> guest: , like the safety net services and support for an aging and low income population. there are challenges around how to provide more affordable housing options. those wraparound support the committee possible for people to age so that' that the gr

arthur t's efforts. paul will update this story online in the days to come. >> woodruff: congress left washington this week and international hot spots boiled over. and we get the analysis of shields and brooksat's syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks. >> woodruff: gentlemen, so, today is all about iraq. mark, did the president have a choice but to go back in militarily? >> i don't think he did, judy. obviously, he had the choice whether it's a humanitarian act. it's nots a question of national security and defense. the irony is seven years ago this very week a long-shot presidential candidate emerged to take on the royal family of the democratic party and the issue because his opponents had all voted to support the u.s. war in iraq and in a fiercely anti-war democratic party, barack obama stood alone. his race and eloquence were exceptional but that wasn't the determining factor. getting out of the iraq war has been his defining mission and today it remains an irony and a reminder of colin powell who reluctantly said in going into that war, it's a pottery barn rule, you break it you own it, and there is a certain sense of that now. >> woodruff: you c