it really -- i don't know, caller, if you've seen, there's a book out now by a guy named arthur brooks, and it's called love your enemy. and it says basically, it says that the true meaning of civility is to have an inner desire to do good to your opponent. that's what we're going for here. and so it really does take us to the concept of love. it really does. it means, yes, being able to love the person, love -- want to do well to your opponent. it's a very profound issue. and it goes to the very heart of what we're doing. so i thank you for that question. >> arthur brooks, appearing on this network in several forms to talk about that book. if you go to our website, you can find out more there. marie in gulf port, mississippi, democrats line, go ahead. >> caller: hey, pedro, happy thanksgiving. i started watching your show since the impeachment hearings. i hadn't watched in years, and it is such a blessing to have your station have these scholarly, compassionate analysts who are doing good for our society. so thank you for that. now, mr. b, yeah, i have to admit, i am at this moment in

it was a real sticking point that arthur brooks wrote this. it was not helpful that you did that. i can see why it was fodder for humor. it did step on it a lot of people's toes. it does make a good point. philip: you will see he will use this motif again. at this time the white hat seems roughly appropriate to bush. i would just stop there. >> this is october of 1999 when he is running for office. in interesting dynamic when presidential candidates run against washington or their own party. he is saying i'm not like these other people in washington, this is not inconsistent with when bill clinton ran for office and barack obama ran. they all would have the same color again whether it's white or black. the president learns we may run against these people. they are going to protect you. they will help fight your battle. >> s captured here, he defined himself in distinction from the prevailing image of congressional republicans who are seen as hard edged and callous, and not as all not captured by the word compassionate. years running for president by running against his party. whil