john alcott and arthur whitten brown? >> i was just on a flight coming from dublin a couple of weeks ago and i was thinking, this chicken here is very tepid. >> then i had to remember that the very flight, the very first flight was 2 rap men who had come out of that bath of dying that was the first world war, 25 million dead, an they took a vickers and they redesigned it, replaced the bombays with petrol tanks, in other words, took the war out of the machine and they flew across the ocean for 17 hours, open cockpit, freezing, and shivering, a little bit of brandy and a couple of sandwiches, and here i was thinking, yes, this chicken is a little tepid. >> i was, how spoiled do we get it was a beautiful journey and a propound journey, and it was a linking of the continents through the air. they also carried the very first transatlantic mail. >> rose: do they have fabric, really, as far as -- >> cloth. >> cloth made in northern ireland, linen, linen cloth held together with wood, a couple of screws and two huge rolls royce e