>> arthur burns apparently lit the fire and g.am miller was the guy i was thinking of who poured gasoline on the fire. he was a carter. you know, it's not his fault, really. he was a carter administration guy. but arthur burns isn't historically looked at too favorably either at least as far as this was concerned. >> i was not judging his success or lack thereof. i was judging his quote. >> have you ever owned comcast? >> he said. >> i said i've owned it for a long time. we like brian roberts. we like the business. >> i want to look at a two-year chart. look at this. there it is. we know the cable business has always been kind of a horse but looking at nbc this time, that's where you're seeing -- 11.5% increase in revenue in the fourth quarter. for the year, if you exclude super bowl and olympics, both numbers are up a lot due to higher advertising. prime time is starting to work. look at the way suddenly that this company has been managed versus what it was. that's incredible. >> lee, thank you so much. great talk to you. we hope