. >>> supervisors, i'm arthur feinstein. i'm chair of the bay chapter of the sierra club. well, as you know, we've bev only seen eye to eye with rec and park. [speaker not understood]. and if we only listen to the powerpoint that was presented to us, it's a bowled over, what an incredible organization it is. and yet we know from our interactions with pd that there are problems there. we have [speaker not understood] park closed for [inaudible] can make money off it. there's ongoing privatization in various parks of this city park system. in order to fund the gap that you guys [inaudible] through rec and park. there's no question there is a money problem. privatizing our precious park space. and the park space we do have [inaudible] and that brings us to the gardeners. and while the powerpoint made it seem like there was no problem at all, you're hearing now what the problems actually are. it would have been nice if rpd had actually come in and said, here's the problems, this is the problem we're having with the union and we're going to work with them. we didn't hear that.