do you accept artur mas‘ analysis of where you've gone wrong? we did one mistake.acy was enough. and that if we got the people to vote, that would be respected. and that would take the spanish government to the negotiating table to talk about the future. we did that mistake. now, how any mistakes can you... i would like you to engage with what artur... crosstalk. please, stephen, stephen... no, i would really like you... let me talk! for years, artur mas said your movement... the thing is, this might be hardtalk, 0k? but trying to talk to the spanish government is not even "hard talk", it's hard without the talking, because they don't want to talk. so there you can see a huge historical mistake because if they resort to repression, to cracking down on the people when they're in the act of voting, when they resort to putting people injail, pushing them into exile instead of dialogue, they're making a huge mistake. that doesn't help. and that doesn't help to quieten down the spirits of the people. that doesn't calm down or cool down whoever is frustrated, whoever is

you to the words earlier this week from the former catalan leader, highly respected in catalonia, artur mas have made three key mistakes in the independence movement". he said, "we were in too much of a hurry with our timeframes, we lacked internal unity in catalonia and we underestimated the strength and resolve of the spanish government". do you accept arturo mas‘s analysis of where you've gone wrong? we did one mistake. believing that democracy was enough. and that if we got the people to vote, that would be respected. and that would take the spanish government to the negotiating table to talk about the future. we did that mistake. now, how any mistakes can you... i would like you to engage with what artur... crosstalk. please, stephen, stephen... no, i would really like you... let me talk! for years, arturo mas said your movement... the thing is, this might be hardtalk, 0k? but trying to talk to the spanish government is not even "hard talk", it's hard without the talking, because they don't want to talk. so there you can see a huge historical mistake because if they resort to repressio