>> let me first address arturo cobow. arturo cobow was a double agent and is still an agent. arturo works with the c.i.a. and the f.b.i. and he is -- many of these people are managed by someone. sergio pen onwho at that time was with the elight intelligence group, the miami police intelligence group managed cobow. when he was arrested for the drug charges, if you follow that story, i think there were like 9,000 kilos of something, he was there. but they knew how much more there were because he knew. so and he has done a great deal for our country. the second question was -- >> how did the reagan administration obviously respond to this threat? i think traditionally it's been thought of that carter was weak and that castro took advantage of his weakness, but then subsequently what was done to track down these spies or did you find any -- >> i can tell you something very interesting about jimmy carter. jimmy carter is a very, very christian man. he's a very good man. but he reached the end of the line about the middle of september when he -- he was a very good friend of castro.