mark: amazing. ♪ [ cellphone rings ] -arvin: hey, marcus. -lemonis: hey, arvin., yourself? lemonis: good. i wanted to check in with you and find out what sort of progress has been made since i was there last? arvin: um, the last spoke to mark, he said he'll give me a call, but i have gotten anything yet. lemonis: you guys haven't started anything yet? arvin: i called them and asked. i was waiting for mark to come back to me. lemonis: you had to call him. he didn't call you. -arvin: yes, exactly. -lemonis: okay. when i left, we were making candles at modern candle. now i'm finding out that mark didn't even follow up with them. this is [bleep] i'm gonna see him in a little bit. i'll be in touch later today, okay? -arvin: all right. -lemonis: thank you, buddy. we had a clear agreement that he was over all of the issues that he had. for me to come back several weeks later, thinking that i'm gonna see a finished product to find out that he didn't even call the guy, i was not happy. where were you supposed to go and who were you supposed to work with the last time i le

>> guest: harry reid a story about marvin and arvin. you can imagine a story about two bad boys who missed schools and went on trips with their bad father. they would stretch from >> guest: that is part of what they loved about each other. the thing about both my parents is they were sensitive and noticed everything. the entire world they saw were the shades of gray and no black and white. they would notice things that might make others sad or affect others emotionally that no one else saw. they would say see that person? that person is suffering inside. at first glance it looked like the person was just like anyone else but when they said here is what to look for, see how their eyes are moving, they noticed everything and that was at the bottom of what made do you noti everything? >> guest: well, i do but not as much as my parents. >> c-span: you got d's and f's in high school? >> reporter: i was 606 out of 666 in my high school in north brook, illinois. the safety schools others were applying for were my first choices and i didn't get