asa? >> [inaudible] >> will you work with the -- >> thank you, wayne. one of the first responsibilities i learned at homeland security was the importance of protecting our nation's critical infrastructure. and there's nothing more critical to our nation's well being than our chirp's safety -- our children's safety. they're this country's future, and our most precious resource. we all understand that our children should be safe in school, but it is also essential that the parents understand and have confidence in that safety. as a result of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut, that confidence across this nation has been shatter ored. shattered. assurance of school safety must be restored with a sense of urgency. that is why i am grateful that the national rifle association has asked me to lead a team of security experts to assist our schools, parents and our communities. i took this assignment on one condition, that my team of experts will be independent and will be guided solely by what are the best security solutions for the safety of our children whil

drug enforcement agency, the honorable congressman asa hutchinson. asa? >> are you going to take questions? >> thank you, wayne. one of the first responsibilities i learned at homeland security was the importance of protecting our nation's critical infrastructure, and there's nothing more critical to our nation's well-being than our children's safety. they are this country's future and our most precious resource. we all understand that our children should be safe in school, but it is also essential that the parents understand and have confidence in that safety. as a result of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut, that confidence across this nation has been shattered. assurance of school safety must be restored with a sense of urgency. that is why i am grateful that the national rifle association has asked me to lead a team of security experts to assist our schools, parents, and our communities. i took this assignment on one condition, that my team of experts will be independent and will be guided solely by what are the best security solutions for the safet

drug enforcement agency, the honorable congressman asa hutchinson. >> thank you. one of the first responsibilities i learned at homeland security was the importance of protecting our nation's critical infrastructure, and there is nothing more critical to our nation's well-being than our children's safety. they're this country's future and most precious resource. we all understand -- >> we have been listening to the press conference from the nra and the words of executive director wayne lapierre in his own words in one of the most bizarre press briefings that i have ever witnessed talk about what can happen in this country in terms of offering meaningful contributions on the heels of what happened in newtown, connecticut. the main message, the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. wayne lapierre's message is basically we are all arg targets and we need to have a gun on us at all times and need to have our schools with armed security guards, basically the same message he reiterated five years ago after the tragedy we witnessed at virginia t

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need police immediately because that's something that we can get done and i think what congressman asa hutchinson is going to look to do, and he got there long. we called him, deputy director of home land security, he's going to put together a program like they had in israel. israel had a whole lot of school shootings until they did one thing. they said we're going to stop it and they put armed security in every school and they have not had a problem since then. let's make our kids safe. let's not argue about this endless argument about gun role. >> would you concede as good of an idea as you think this is, it may not work because there have been cases where armed guards have not prevented this kind of massacre, this kind of carnage. you would concede that point, wouldn't you? >> i'm saying that if i'm a mom or a dad -- >> you're saying we ought to try. >> if i'm a mom or dad, i'd feel a whole lot safer with these great men and women on police forces -- >> you have to concede it may not work. >> nothing's perfect, david but, gosh, it's going to be better -- >> who pays? a third of the

. >> our conversation with nra point man asa hutchinson. connecticut senator joe lieberman on the culture of violence. then the gop's civil war. >> not the outcome that i wanted, but that was the will of the house. >> republican versus republican on the fiscal cliff with congressman steven la tourest and mick mulvaney. weighing in, "usa today's" bureau chief susan page, ron brownstein and michael duffy, washington bureau chief for "time" magazine. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." nine days after the mass shooting deaths in newtown, the president of the national rifle association joined the gun debate. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> in a similar vein, lawmakers in a growing number of states including oklahoma, missouri, minnesota, south dakota, virginia and oregon have said they will consider laws allowing teachers and school administrators to carry firearms at school. the nra says they are moving ahead

support an immediate appropriation before congress to put them in school and we're going to work with asa hutchinson who has agreed to work with us, drawing on retired military, drawing on retired police, on former secret service and all these people that can actually go in and make our kids safe. that's the one thing that we can do. >> the one and only thing? you don't think guns should be part of the conversation. >> i think that's the one thing that will immediately make our children safe. >> is it the only thing? >> gun control, you could ban all dianne feinstein, do whatever she wants to with magazines, it's not going to make any kid safer. we got to get to the real problem, the real causes and tease what the nra is trying to do. i have peel all over the country calling me and saying, wayne, i went to bed safer last night because i have a firearm. don't let the media try to make this a gun issue. >> that's argument, it not fact. >> it is fact. >> a feeling is not fact. a feeling is a sense of reassurance, that's not what you're presenting. let's talk more specifically about what you'

though it's not the exclusive difference, it's one element we ought to look at. >> thank you so much asa hutchinson. >> thank you and merry christmas to both of you. >> merry christmas. >>> meanwhile, the final three funerals were held over the weekend for the victims of the newtown massacre and this morning elaine quijano has the first interview from the police officers who responded to the call of shots fired. >> the first door we checked, we were able to get into was into the boiler room of the elementary school. >> officer leonard penna led two others into sandy hook elementary school minutes after the call went out. >> when i saw that officer penna had a rifle kind of told him, you're in front, buddy. and the heroism that he displayed just to get in front of us -- >> the gun powder smoke in there is nothing that i ever want to smell again because it was just overwhelming overwhelming. >> what were you hearing at that point? >> silence. normally there's noise. >> the quiet was deafening. every second seemed like an hour. i've never experienced fear like that ever. i mean it was free

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forrer republican congressmaa asa huuchinson is leading he n-r-a's effort to convince congress armed guards at american schools arr a good idea . and aid this orring it would be similar to the way the government proteccs air travelers from terrorists. hutchinson ays: "there was intense debate thatton and yet we have a ffderal air to oversee, and which haa provided a deteerent. it has airlines, nd ii's not like -it's an armed camp when yoo ggo & on the airlinees" virginia democratic senator mark warner has an ááaáá rating from the n-r-aa disagreee with their idea.. pnd insttad thinks multiple steps must be taken. to avoid more mass murder. warner says: "if my memory is armed individual at columbine yeers ago and didd't prevent - that tragedy so i think ww need a cooprehensive approach ... i think ittlooks at mental allo hink it looks at these high volume magazines thaa can fire off so manyyrounds."doocy tag: the n-r-a ceo said this morning. bbnning those high - make any ddfferencc. when it ccmes to making peoole safer. in wassington, peter doocy, fox news. 3 3 a twittee haatag trendin

retired police, and secret service and all these people that can go in and make our people safe. >> asa hutchison joins us now. good morning. >> good morning, yes? >> why does there need to be an armed guard in e'er single school? >> as you emphasized. it needs to be voluntary but the status quo is not acceptable as senator warner said. and i think we ought to look at the safe testity of our schools. right now you have one third of our schools that do have an armed presence, a uniformed officer, police officer present at school. why should one third have the school safety while the two thirds do not. this christmas season, i think the highest priority should be the safety of our children, elementary schools. i have grand children there. i think one of the aspects of it would be to have a greater around presence, very discreet presence that can provide a greater level of safety. >> congress, you're absolutely right some schools have armed guards. there was an armed guard at columbine. virginia tech had its own police force. if armed guards do not prevent massacres at those schools why do

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we'll talk with former congressman and nra consultant asa hutchinson. and some real christmas cheer for nearly 2,000 people who just hit the jackpot in the world's richest lottery. a nice stocking stuffer. see you at 7:00. >> we'll have to start playing the lottery. merry christmas again. >>> they're talking about it and so, too, are we. the debate on how to prevent a tragedy like the newtown shootings is heating up. despite vehement criticism, the national rifle association made it clear it is not backing down from its opposition to any new gun laws. jessica doyle is here with the latest on local protests and where this debate is going. we hear this all the time after major tragedies and we're hoping something happens different this time. >> in terms of the local protests, what we're seeing, it's the debate of course we'll see congress confront when it comes back into session in the new year. the local protests were led by a bishop for a catholic diocese and they centered on a firearms dealer in falls church, basically calling for tougher gun control l

drug enforcement agency, the honorable congressman, asa hutchinson. asa? >> thank you, wayne. >> one of the first responsibilities i learned at homeland security was the importance of protecting our nation's critical infrastructure. there is nothing more critical to our nation's well-being that our children safety. they are this country's future and our most precious resource. all understand that our children should be safe at school but it is also essential that the parents understand and have confidence in that safety. as a result of the tragedy in newtown connecticut, that confident -- confidence across this nation has been shattered. assurance of school safety must be restored with a sense of urgency. that is why i am grateful that the national rifle association has asked me to lead a team of security experts to assist our schools, parents, and their communities. i took this assignment on one condition -- that my team of experts will be independent, and will be guided solely by what are the best security solutions for the safety of our children while a

our headliner this morning, the nra's new point person on school shootings, asa hutchinson. then the senate debate with republican johnny isakson and democrat amy klobuchar. plus our powerhouse roundtable with newark mayor cory bookerer, nra board member grover norquist, peggy noonan and katrina vanden huval. >>> hello, again. the president and congress are off for christmas. fleeing a capitol filled with political dysfunction. fiscal cliff talks have completely collapsed. questions about the president's new national security team forced him to announce the appointments piecemeal and the nra's first response to the tragedy in newtown provoked a fierce debate and we'll cover that starting withnra's choice to lead a national effort to protect school former congressman, asa hutchinson. good morning, mr. hutchinson. thanks for joining us this morning. >> hi. >> you emphasize at the press conference friday you will be independent. but as you begin your effort this national school shield initiative, i wonder if you agree with the analysis of the problem laid out by wayne lapierre

. >> the consultant leading the nra's effort to secure the schools is asa hutchinson, a former republican congressman from arkansas who said he didn't think new laws and prohibition is the right way to respond to what happened in sandy hook and compared the nra plan to put a trained guard in every american school to the federal air marshal program put in place after 9/11. >> more sensitive that be airplanes. people resisted having weapons on airplanes but i oversaw the federal air marshals and it's a deterrent, no one sees that weapon but they're protected on the airplane and it's a positive impact on safety. schools are a sensitive environment as well. you could provide safety and security with armed, trained, personnel without putting fear in everyone. >> he argued since timothy mcveigh used fertilizer to kill men, women and children in oklahoma city, restricting firearms will not make children safer but many lawmakers are skeptical about the nra plan. >> we have armed officers in many schools in washington, d.c. we have armed officers in schools. and some of that is appropriate and per

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drug enforcement agency, the honorable congressman asa hutchinson. asa? we've been listening in to the national rifle association's first press conference since the tragic shootings in newtown, connecticut. that was wayne laperriere, the nra's executive vice president seeming to blame gun violence, violence overall, on many aspects of society including the entertainment industry, the video game industry, and the media industry and, finally, concluding with a call to action for a national school shield program which would entail armed guards at every school. let's take a check on how the gun industry is taking this news. smith and wesson and stern ruger the two publicly traded gun companies out there. not doing too much. though the past couple sessions have been a fairly rough one for these two stocks. let's bring in hampton pearson for more reaction on the news conference. >> well, a couple things struck me. number one, no mention from wayne laperriere about if you will what's emerged as kind of a short list of policy options, gun control options in the a

addressed in the tragic murder suicide involving kansas city chiefs player jay vaughn belcher here's what asa's had to say. our current done culture with lock wrote ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and that more convenient store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodied and dead handguns do not enhance our safety they exacerbate our flaws attempt to escalate arguments and bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it in the coming days javan belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed who knows but here wrote jason whitlock is what i believe if trayvon belcher didn't possess a gun he and cassandra perkins would both be alive today. and here's what caused this didn't say he didn't say the government should take away people's guns he didn't say we should repeal the second amendment and he didn't call for limits on gun ownership still the conservative media and the blogosphere along with fiery outrage towards cost to us and fox news is still talking about it tod

." >> reporter: asa hutchinson is the former under secretary for border and transportation security, and is working with the n-r-a on this measure. he compares it to air marshals on planes. calling the armed security a "deterrent", an effective way to protect people without the visible presence of weapons. >> "schools are a sensitive environment as well, but you can provide safety and security with armed, trained personnel without putting fear in anyone." >> reporter: new york senator charles schumer says gun violence is down: >> "but we have to keep working on this. and there are lots of different solutions. the pro-gun people who say don't include guns are wrong and the pro gun safety people like myself who say don't look at other solutions is wrong." >> reporter: i'm elizabeth corridan reporting. >> coming up this stolen christmas tree please delete random act of kindness. this christmas tree-provides a random act of kindness. >> the bay area's favorite way to ring in the new year. is always with kron 4. the biggest parties and spectacular fireworks. will all be on kron 4's new ye

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>> the nra also retained asa hutchinson, former u.s.ney, congressman and homeland security official, to develop a model school safety plan focused on issues of design and access control and training for students and educators alike that the group could, said could be tailored by any school to suit its% individual needs. lou. lou: james, the two sides in this gun control debate, are now, if you will forgive the expression, they're arme up and going at it and getting ready for major confrontation. is there any compromise available in this, in this debate? >> as with the fiscal cliff it doesn't appear readily discernable, lou. president obama released a video message vowing to fight for new gun control laws early next year. the down tours of this debate are already taking shape as leading democrats are pressing for renewed assault weapons ban and for new limit on semitick ammunition magazines. a leading senate democrat says she favored schools being allowed to have armed guards if they so choose but she then cited the columbine massacre. >

on abc's this week this george stephanopoulos asa hutchinson compares the current nra proposal with the national debate that took place before armed air martials were put on planes in an effort to deter terrorism. >> it was an intense debate that on o airplanes guns have no place. it has increased the security of the airlines. it is not like it is an armed camp. it is a discrete use of armed guards that has a presence there to protect america. >> georgia senator johnny isaacson reports the columbine took place five years in the ten year assault weapons ban which congress eventually allowed to expire. >>> saint anthony's in san francisco is holding its 4th annual curbside donation drive. yesterday people dropped by clothes and food by the bagful. donated hand knitted scars and socks were also available for those in need. it continues today and tomorrow. even in the rain, people are coming out, lisa, to donate. and that a rain is going to continue. >>> that's right. we are getting pounded right now in parts of the way area as a strong cold front is pushing into the bay. here is a look at

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and be sure to join george when his guests include asa hutchinson, the head of the nra national schoolshow for george this morning. >>> moving on now while it's not as dire as the whole fiscal cliff situation, a lot are upset at the game show "wheel of fortune." it has to do with this contestant. she guessed the right words but she was told she lost anyway. abc's john muller is on the story. >> reporter: good morning, dan. this is the game show version of football fan, outrage over a referee's blown call and wheel of fortune fans saying the judges blew it big time. we hear from the woman robbed because of her pronunciation and southern accent. >> 300. >> "s." >> yeah, four of them. >> all right. >> she was on a roll, cruising her way towards thousands on wheel of fortune. >> "n." >> three ns. >> renee can taste victory. she's got the winning answer. >> i'd like to solve. >> yep. >> seven swans a swimin'. >> or so she thought. even host pat say jack has to backtrack. >> seven swans a swimin' -- >> yeah, that's not. >> that's kind of how i speak, you know, being from florida and i had as

joining me now is asa hutchinson. you're known very well here in washington, d.c. ask you now that you are the point man on nra issues in trying to keep guns out of schools, there was another shooting over the weekend, this one involved a man who shot the two volunteer firefighters. he left a note. it sounded like a very serious situation. now, we know what your solution is to guns in schools. but what's your solution to that? >> well, you describe mes as point man. it is the point person for school safety issues. and so there's a larger debate that will take place in terms of whether there should be additional restrictions on large ammunition clips or so on further restrictions. my focus is on the safety side of things and that's been my mandate is to look at schools, what more can be done, part of it would be a solution of an armed presence, which we have in one-third of our schools. what a tragedy it was with the fire personnel as devastating and as incredible that one human being can even think in those terms. so that's a tragedy that i'm sure will continue to

. >> asa hutchison is one of the names brought up here.uld he be on the panel that vice president biden will be leading? >> he's a former member of congress, he has sway with people on capitol hill, he's large live seen as somebody who is going to run for governor in his home state of arkansas going forward, he's still an active political figure, former members of congress tend to get more things done here in washington than some other folks but we'll see. >> they don't have to be re-elected. >> that's right. they're going to need a lot of power going forward to get lngs through. >> we heard this on friday, we heard it on sunday from lapierre. he was using the terms "good guys" fairly frequently. does that positive association he's making with police officers, of those who are trained using gun, using the terms "good guys" is that what we expect to hear for all those who are opponents of gun legislation going forward? >> i think so. i think that will be part of the conversation. but, you know, this will be a really difficult battle on capi