. >> johnson practices an obscure religion called asatru. >> before we were christians, we were asatrubelieve in oden, thor and others. basically a medieval religion. classical. >> prison officials maintain these religions like asatru are really covers for white supremacist gangs. >> it's a problem. because you can't violate their religious freedom. >> you take it easy, huh? >> all right. >> for father mcnally, the choice or legitimacy of an inmate's religion is a secondary concern. >> forget the priest bit. deal with them as a human being first, then the ministry comes along with that. you deal with them as they are, as i would in a hospital or any other setting. i read a bit of it, found it fascinating. when you get done with it, i'll pick it up. >> it's cool. i never understood the jesuits of that time period. it's nice to have somebody come in and spend some time with me. he doesn't try to force christianity down my throat. >> it feels very sad for them that this has to be where they are. of course, knowing, as they know, that they've done something pretty darn bad to get in here.