since world war ii where side of the value scale was on the wane and the other side was on the asensation, so ronald reagan could not come to the country and say what we are doing is working. and he could not speak to a republican country, because 52% of the country called themselves democrats. so, instead of making an appeal to keep things the way they are, and not take a chance of risk, the election that so many conservatives cared the most about, the one i think you trade all the others for in some ways is 1980, when ronald reagan had to come to this country and say we appear to be in the dulldroms and losing our way, we can do better if we recover what has always been best in our tradition. and ladies and gentlemen, for those of you who do not remember that time. it was a very powerful call that touched people working on ship yards. people living under the shadow of political tyranny, touched blacks in south africa, touched people all over the world who loved hearing the clarion call of freedom. for all the people in your 20s who were here, people in the 20s in the 1980s were almost g

. >> are you getting asense of what the president is thinking and how they are going to approach this> well, you know, it will be a shock to me if they decide to go strident at the supreme court. i think their expectation is the -- the one thing they don't expect a full overturn. in their heart of hearts, they think it is going to be somewhere in the middle. they still think they have a good shot at full uphold. they have always believed that, that at the end of the day, that they, you know, when you look at the various different conservative jurists on lower courts that have looked at this and have upheld the law, they believe that ultimately, this whole thing will get upheld. and that if there's parts of it that are struck down, it will be "severable" that the court will find it that way. so, they are not -- a full overturn and perhaps what chri is outlining, you know, perhaps maybe that changes their political dynamics. my understanding, that isn't the thinking they have, as far as the mechanics of today f it is a full uphold, we will hear from the president sooner rather than late