asependents, 202-748-8002 folks are calling and to follow up on that, a release from last week. you studied the broad outlines of the plan. the tax framework could cost $2.2 trillion with the release that put -- got out after the plan was released. what are the big drivers in this plan? what is the big ticket item? host: the problem has been the leaders --guest: the problem has been the leaders keep dangling the goodies. we are going to double standard adoption, -- the actions, the -- standard deduction -- all things that grow the economy. one of the things we found in outside studies is tax reform that makes the deficit worse is much worse for economic growth and then tax reform that makes paideficit better or is for. if your goal is to grow the economy, you want to offset the cost. the problem that is understandable because politically nobody is willing to talk about hard things and that is a frustration because it involves paying for things. nobody said how they are going to pay for this. host: a lot of supporters say it will be paid for by larger economic growth. mildly, the