we've heard him talk about this investigation as a witch hunt, aset rigged, sng that the government ifodoing to his er campaign manager. he is basically saying it is something he has the power to do. >>s there'o arguments. one is this is a prosecution that is baseless. but if he's convicted, they have thisat argument his is for stuff that no one else would be taken to court for, which is a way of protecting what else could come out. you could have further charges against members of tru,'s fami against other parts of his campaign. even if they are guilty, the president's team is reserving this argument that maybe they did something wrong, but it is a technical violation, and a akpardon wouldmore sense. robert: you've been at the courtrm in alexandria. such a heated environment. you have judge ellis saying he's getting threats. we talk about what this means people on the left and right are plugged into this trial. >> we had members of the general public on both sides of the aisle showing up to sit alongside the reporters in the courtroom for days of testimony, especially when rick gates was on

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