i'm delighted to be joined by alba party msp ash regan. welcome to the programme and thank you very much for joining programme and thank you very much forjoining us. much for joining us. >> good evening to you. >> good evening to you. >> as you understand , it is the >> as you understand, it is the snp position that the general election will form some kind of referendum on the matter of scottish independence, that if the scottish nationalists had a more seats than anybody else, that would be the gateway to another referendum on. >> well, i think that's the way that the snp are setting it out. my that the snp are setting it out. my view would be that they're actually waving the white flag right now. they're basically admitting to scotland that after eight years or so, after pursuing this policy, which basically consists of just begging westminster for a referendum. and let's not forget that no less than five prime ministers have now said no to that request. i think we're all assuming at this point that keir starmer is going to be forming th