ashish jha. >>> it was a tragic mistake, that remarkable admission from the pentagon tonight about a drone strike in afghanistan that did not take out an isis target as they had claimed but instead killed ten civilians, including seven children courtney kube has that story. >> reporter: tonight a stunning and embarrassing reversal by the u.s. military, acknowledging this drone strike intended to target a potential isis bomber actually killed ten innocent afghan civilians, including seven children >> i'm here today to set the record straight and acknowledge our mistakes. >> reporter: the pentagon announcing results of its investigation into the august 29th strike, which was launched while american forces were on edge, days after the isis terror attack at the kabul airport. >> i offer my sincere apology. as a combatant commander, i am fully responsible for this strike and this tragic outcome. >> reporter: u.s. military leaders initially defended the strike joint chiefs chairman mark milley claiming it stopped another imminent attack on americans at that airport. >> at this point we thi

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ashish jha, dr. jha, always great to have you with us. you have been saying on the air with me for some time that older americans and those at higher risk should receive the booster first, which is what the fda panel recommended today. that still makes sense to you base on the science revealed? >> good evening, thanks for having me back. it does. the science is very clear. high risk people, older people, yes. younger healthy people, we don't have to data and i'm glad that's how the fda voted. >> on the larger question of if all americans 16 and older should receive phaser boosters, you said circumstantial evidence needed, further evidence. the fda panel saying the same thing. we saw israel starting with 60 and older. this was back this july. then they moved to 50 and older. is that what we could see here, an incremental roll out as we move forward? >> absolutely. i think we're going get more data on the younger, healthier population. when we do, if it shows they need boosters, that's where we'll go, but right now we need to focus on the h

ashish jha. dr. jha, great to see you. which finds a booster dose showed a real world reduction in infection and additional studies by pfizer finds immunity wanes over time the booster restores the immunity. does this make the case that boosters should be approved in the u.s.? >> yeah, jim, thanks for having me back. i think the data are pretty clear as you look at this that boosters are helpful for high risk individuals, older people, people with chronic diseases. that's who's really suffering the severe hospitalizations and severe complications. it's not clear to me from these day that the boosters are necessary for young and healthy people. but for older people, people at high risk, absolutely this for me is pretty convincing that those people need boosters. >> and yet we're hearing the fda meeting this friday, is expected to be bumpy. what's the argument against rolling out these booster doses now? >> yeah, so, i think there are two sets of argument. there is a broader argument of there is so much of the world left unv

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arthel: joining us now is doctor ashish jha, dean of brown university school of public health. dr. they're protesting new york's vaccine mandate. what's your position on a vaccine mandate? >> yes, first, thanks for having me back. you know, my take is we've got to get this pandemic under control and more importantly we've got to put it behind us. 1500, 2,000 americans are dying every day and we've got to do everything we can. a majority of americans support vaccine mandates. we've got vaccine mandates for all sorts of other conditions. i understand it feels like a lot for some people. but right now i think anything we can do to get this pandemic under control and put it behind us is a good thing to do including these mandates. arthel: a thank you for that. i want to go to the fda advisory panel's recommendation. do you agree with snit -- with it? and how soon do you think the fda will expand the demo and recommend third shots for everyone and is a third shot a good idea? >> i do agree with the decision. i was predicting this is where the advisory committee would go. this is where t

ashish jha, thank you so much for being with us., dan. >> eva, thank you. >>> let's talk about the politics now of these vaccine mandates. let's bring in abc deputy political director, averi harper. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> so we've seen president biden take a tougher tone, tougher actions now to the unvaccinated. there is republican pushback though. how do you see this playing out? >> right. so the president's directive includes companies that have more than 100 employees, calling for those companies to mandate the vaccine. it utilizes a regulation -- an emergency power through the occupational safety and health administration, but it's never been used d d this way before mandate vaccines, and so you have republican pushback. 19 republican governors are pushing back speaking out against the president on this. many vowing to file suit. we'll see a long, drawn out legal battle as it relates to this. >> let me ask you about another political issue this morning while i have you. right now the biden administration, the d

ashish jha, dean of the brown university school of public health. and dr. jha, great to have you. the cdc tonight backing the single pfizer booster after six months for those 65 and older, for those 18 and older with underlying health conditions and given the data that you've studied, you're completely comfortable with this? >> good evening, david. yes, i am. i think the data supports that quite strongly and i think the cdc panel got that one right. >> the one surprise here, on this no vote, the experts were asked about those with jobs that have a high risk of infection, front line workers, teachers among them. the vote was no. 9-6 on this. a lot of those workers are watching the news here tonight. can you explain why the cdc said no to a booster for them? >> yeah, this is an advisory committee vote that i don't understand, david, to be perfectly honest. i think about an icu nurse that is nine months out from her second shot, she needs a booster. so, i'm hoping that the cdc director will overrule this, but i do not think this was the right decision by the advisory committee. >> an

ashish jha, dean of the brown university school of public health. good to have you with us. first vashgs seens for children 5 to 11. given what you have seen from pfizer today, you have a 9-year-old son and given what you've seen today, would you be comfortable giving your child the shot? >> yeah, david, thank you for having me back. i expect that my son will be getting vaccinated but i want to see the data reviewed by the fda, that should happen in the next few weeks, i want the data to be made public. i expect that this will turn out well. i trust it will, but we need to verify it. let's see what the next few weeks bring. >> and a quick followup, it's important to remind parents out there watching tonight to be careful, because if approved, this is about a third of the normal pfizer dose we're talking about, so, don't try to get your kids the shot in its current form. >> that's right. absolutely. very, very important that people who have kids under 12 wait until this authorization happ happens. getting the dosing right for kids is very, very important. this is a different

ashish jha. >> boosters are an important component of keeping people who are already vaccinated safe, but the biggest strategy has to be getting the unvaccinated their first shot. >> reporter: earlier today, president biden, who is 78, said he would be getting his own booster soon. >> it's hard to acknowledge i'm over 65, but i'll be getting my booster shot. >> reporter: a short time later on abc's "the view"... >> i need the two of you to step off. >> reporter: ...cohosts sunny hostin and ana navarro abruptly left the set shortly before interviewing vice president kamala harris. they had just tested positive. >> they'll be okay, i'm sure, because they're both vaccinated. >> reporter: scientists say one of the keys to ending the pandemic is protecting children. today, the c.d.c. pointed to new data that showed schools without mask requirements were 3.5 times more likely to have outbreaks. today, at the annual texas state fair, edward bennett, 77, was among the first to receive his booster. >> as soon as i heard about the boosters, the only thing i want to know is where can i get it? >

ashish jha. always great to have you. i want to get right back to the results. one study actually broke down across age groups showing the moderna vaccine performed best in terms of reducing risk of hospitalization, 95%. pfizer, 80% effective at keeping you out of the hospital, and johnson & johnson came in at about 60%. i'm curious, what do you make of the numbers tonight? >> thanks for having me back. i think the evidence really is that the mrna vaccines, moderna, pfizer are holding up quite well. i don't know that the difference between moderna and pfizer is clinically that meaningful. johnson & johnson coming in lower, concerning. i think we have to think about how we protect people with johnson & johnson and whether they need an extra shot sometimes soon. >> you bring up the issue of boosters. cdc said these studies found vaccine effectiveness wanes more among older adults, which is not entirely surprising given age and the fact that they were among the first to get vaccinated. we heard the cdc director say she expects the standard for fully vaccinated -- t

ashish jha, dean of the brown university school of public health. dr. a, always great to have you with us. let's get right to what the fda released today, this pfizer data. they are suggesting this extra dose, this booster shot, a third shot, for those 16 and older, about six months after receiving that second dose. and they said this isn't necessarily because of the delta variant, instead, they said this is because of effectiveness decreases with increasing time. essentially waning over time, which is what you and i have talked about so often here on the news. moderna releasing very similar data. are you convince bid why what yw today? >> yeah, david, thanks for having me back. what i'm convinced of today is people who are vulnerable. people who have over 65, people with chronic diseases, they clearly need that booster shot after about six months. because they don't just have more breakthrough infections, but often more severe disease, as well. younger, healthier people, they do seem to have more breakthrough infections after a period of time, but they'

ashish jha, dean of the brown university school of public health. dr. jha, always great to have you with us. first, we heard dr. fauci reiterate there that the delta variant is still the vast majority of the cases we're seeing in the u.s., but on this new variant, the mu variant and questions if it could possibly resaid vaccines, give us a reality check here tonight. what do we know so far about this variant and how concerned are you? >> yeah, david, thank you for having me back. you know, we're still learning a lot about this new mu variant. so far, i don't see any evidence that this variant is going to be able to displace delta, the very contagious delta variant. still the concerning one. and also, i really do believe our vaccines are going to hold up well even against this new variant. so, more to learn, but right now, i'm not excessively concerned. >> in the meantime, dr. jha, we know president biden is expected to address the nation tomorrow on this next chapter in the fight against the virus. we're now seeing 1 in 4 cases in this country involving

ashish jha and monica alba on the president's new pandemic strategy this is the president's clearly most aggressive plan yet. >> reporter: and the most aggressive yet it's one where the president is very clear about how frustrated he is with the more than 80 million americans who still refuse to get vaccinated the white house is already bracing for some legal fights here and battles with private companies who may not want to require with these even though he is concerned and expressed that anger tonight. >> you've been patient and our patience is wearing thin and the refusal has cost all of us so, please, do the right thing. >> beyond these new mandates not just for the federal work force, contractors, health care workers and those in the private sector, companies with 100 people or more, we're also getting information about what the president would like to see happen inside of schools and classrooms, particularly with kids heading back for that current semester the president announcing he would like to see a surge in testing and he's going to be using the defense production act to boost

ashish jha, appreciate it as always. thank you. >> just hours from now, president biden will head to new york for the united nations general assembly. he'll meet with the secretary-general and make his first address to the u.n. as u.s. president tomorrow. it comes as he deals with fallout over the u.s. deal with australia for nuclear powered submarines, france upset, it had been looking to lock down its own submarine deal with australia. the white house confirms that president biden will speak we man well macron this week. france angry, publicly angry, in fact, over the deal. it's re-called its ambassador from the u.s. for the first time in modern times. >> translator: a few days before the announcements last wednesday, we had a meeting of the two ministers of defense and foreign affairs of france and australia. we absolutely weren't informed of the new course chosen by australia. >> with me now, fareed zakaria, host of fareed zakaria gps. big picture as to why the biden administration is doing this as a counter to chine

ashish jha in just a moment but stephanie gosk joins us with the latest good morning >> reporter: goodng. first of all, this only applies to peo vaccine. they then have to fit that criteria, older than 65 or at high risk. that includes people who work at hospitals but also grocery store workers, teachers, they all qualify. but they can't come down to vaccination centers just yet the cdc has to release the additional guidance. but the fda with their decision has paved the way for millions of americans to get that third shot >> reporter: breaking overnight, the fda authorizing pfizer's covid-19 booster, making millions of americans eligible for a third shot people 65 and older, those at high risk for severe illness, and people who are frequently exposed to covid at their jobs, like health care workers, school teachers, and grocery store employees. the third pfizer dose must come at least six months after the second shot. the fda's move does not apply to those who received the moderna or johnson & johnson vaccines. president biden initially announced last month that boosters would be avai

ashish jha. great to see you.ome level of normalcy, and we hear the stories from the states with low vaccination rates. big picture from where you sit, where are we as a country right now? >> good morning, thanks for having me back. we're at a funny, i would precarious moment in this pandemic because we have two americaings. one america that is fully vaccinated that i think is worrying a little too much about the state of the pandemic, and then we have another america of largely unvaccinated people who are not worrying enough about what the delta variant is doing. and what we're seeing right now is hospitalization, obviously across the country, particularly in the south in very bad shape. again, all of this is turn aroundable, indoor masking, testing, all the stuff we have been talking about, we can turn this around but we've got to get our kind of policy house in order of states and federal government. >> when you say there are people worrying too much that's very interesting that some places maybe have gone too

ashish jha, dean of the brown university of public health. thanks for joining us.ust heard there, millions of people travelled this labor day weekend. the first big holiday since the delta variant became the dominant strain, even after the cdc warned unvaccinated americans not to travel. do you expect it will lead to another big surge? >> good morning. for vaccinated people traveling is a really safe thing to do. many americans remain unvaccinated, about one third of adults. i'm expecting a bump. i hope not a major spike. after major single holiday we've seen a bump infections, hospitalizations and deaths. i'm worried we're going see that again. >> i want to turn to booster shots. the white house plans to start booster shots on september 20th. dr. fauci said likely only pfizer will be approved first. is that the right call to roll these boosters out at different times? >> that's really good questioned. the evidence submitted to the fda is only from pfizer. i think it will be hard for people to keep track. i think they'll want to move quickly, certainly on moderna.

ashish jha dean of university school of public health. doctor, this is interesting at a time when we are looking at vaccine booster timetables for everyone. what is your reaction to this? >> yeah, good morning. thanks for having me here. i'm a little perplexed by that piece. there's some terrific scientists on there, so i want to be thoughtful about how we talk about it. but the bottom line is that as i look at the data, data out of israel, data out of the united states as well, is you clearly do see waning immunity in high-risk people. as i think about who needs boosters, elderly, frail, people with chronic diseases, the evidence is leaning towards that. both of the companies, moderna and pfizer have submitted more data to the fda. that will become available in the next week or so. i think the high risk individuals we almost surely need a booster. >> i want to ask you about an argument, you're hearing from republican politicians, jim jordan yesterday, and other people in surprising locations. say, look, if you're vaccinated, you're prote

ashish jha and robert gibbs. a lot as your team has been reporting with your speech and what the president hopes to accomplish. >> andrea, this is an opportunity for the president to amplify and magnify some of the issues we've been hearing him talk about throughout his time in office and he's got what they are framing as a six-point plan. some things will be very familiar and some will seem a bit new in terms of how they're expanding their approach. the president is going to try to emphasize that vaccinations were the key. so how to reach out to the unvaccinated and how to protect those who have already been vaccinated when we've seen concerns about breakthrough cases and concerns about the spread of variants and those kinds of things. a big piece that will be new is taking some of the options away from, for example, federal workers. there was already a plan for federal workers to be vaccinated. we've seen that with the military and key agency, but now expanding that across the government and removing the option

ashish jha, dean of brown university school of public health. dr. kavita patel who served in the white house during the obama administer. and the executive director of the berman bioethics university at johns hopkins university. welcome to you all. dr. jha, i want to go around the horn with all three of you and get your predictions, what you expect to hear today from the cdc. dr. jha? >> thanks for having me back. what i expect to hear from the cdc is very much a mirroring of what we got from the fda. people over 65, a large number of people who are at high risk for complications, and people with substantial exposure in the workplace. when you tally up the numbers, it will be a very large number of americans, potentially a majority of americans who will become eligible, the majority of adults will become eligible for this booster. >> dr. patel, what do you expect today? >> and also some clarity. i think the role of the advisory committee of the cdc is to put more granularity in what the fda gave, for example which conditions should clinicians consid

ashish jha, shaq brewster, monica alba, gabe gutierrez, thank you. we expect updates imminently. next hour dr. fauci is joining craig live to answer all of your pandemic questions, a special edition of "craig melvin reports" today at 11:00. >>> we have other news developing this morning, joint chiefs chair general mark milley talking now for the first time after he was put into a firestorm over revelations in this new book "peril" that's out, his new comments have come out this morning, he's saying his calls to a chinese general were "perfectly within the dut ease and responsibilities" of his job adding those calls are "routine" and meant "to reassure both allies and adversaries." republicans are calling on president biden to fire mark milley. nbc's courtney kube is at the pentagon. he might be saving any of the zingers or fireworks as much as those exist for a senate hearing later this month, right? >> definitely saving some of the specific details about both of those two scenarios that were described in the woodward and costa book, the phone call with the chinese counterpart an

ashish jha . >>> a rewalk to the biden administration from some of the nation's top vaccine scientists. a panel at fda recommended against giving covid booster shots to everybody who has already been vaccinated against covid-19. instead the panel recommended that the extra shot only for those 65 or older or who have a high-risk medical condition. president biden himself announced a plan last month to deliver boosters to everyone, and it was just two days earlier that dr. anthony fauci said this. there is very little doubt that the boosters will be beneficial and the panel disagreed with him saying, quote, i think that would be a mistake to be honest with you. dr. jha joins us now. he's the dean of brown university's school of public health. dr. jha thank you so much for joining us this morning. first, you've said that you agree with this recommendation, but help us why. what's the downside of giving everyone a booster and make sure -- given that they are safe, what's the harm in getting any minimal benefit to a variety of individuals? >> yes, good morning. thanks for having us here. i

ashish jha, cal perry and monica alba thank you. >>> and now to louisiana in some of the hardest hit areas like jefferson parish, the water has not fully receded, and in the northeast, people are bracing for another storm system with the potential of flash flooding. in manville, new jersey, where we saw president biden, they are rushing to clean up from last week's flooding before the storm hit. ellison barber is in new jersey, and sam brock is in louisiana, and what is the latest? >> good to be with you here on a drizzly day in new orleans, and so much here in the recovery from hurricane ida. the electric company efvergy ha been out working to try to get power back, and they believe most of new orleans will have their power back. and now, most of the residents were evacuated to a warehouse in independence, louisiana, and we have video of those residents lying on mattresses in floodwater filth on the floor, and not getting the help they needed and seven people died in that catastrophe and now an investigation is moving forward and the state department of health and the attorney gener

ashish jha, our friend, dean of the brown university school of public health. dr. hit just used that word whiplash, and i think it could not be more accurate. folks might be confused. let's break it down. that panel initially recommended boosters for older folks and people with compromised immune systems, not frontline workers. overnight the head of the cdc says no, it can be frontline workers. was this the right decision? >> yeah, good morning, cecilia. thanks for having me here. absolutely. dr. walensky made absolutely the right call yesterday when the advisory committee said no to frontline health workers and other people at high risk. i and i thin most of us in public health thought that was the wrong decision, and it's ultimately, this is an advisory committee and dr. walensky gets to make the call. she made the right call. >> give us the time line. when can folks start to get the booster shots and go also back to what whit was talking about, this being for pfizer folks, folks who have pfizer. can you mix and match if you had moderna? >> that's a great question

ashish jha, dean of the brown university school of public health. dr. thanks for joining us again. let's talk about the science behind the boosters. clearly needed for the most vulnerable americans. >> yeah, good morning, george. thanks for having me here. absolutely. i think the data has become clear that vulnerable americans need it. elderly people are immunocompromised, people with chronic diseases. whether healthy young people need it, i'm more skeptical. i haven't seen the data yet. the vulnerable people, absolutely. >> what should we expect from the fda today? >> i do expect them to come out and authorize boosters, third shots for individuals. now, the question is who will they authorize it for? i expect those groups i mentioned, elderly, vulnerable people to be authorized. there may be some who push for a broader authorization for everybody over 16. i don't know what the fda will do on that. >> that means we'll see the shots for vulnerable americans in two or three weeks? >> no, should be much sooner. the cdc needs to meet an i expect that to hap

ashish jha, the dean of the brown university school of public health and dr. through some of this. hearing talk of the fourth wave but dealing with two different americas, the america where people are vaccinated, the america where peope aren't. >> yeah, good morning, george. thanks for having me here. that's exactly right. for people vaccinated, they may get the infection, they may get a breakthrough but it'll be mild and won't end up in the hospital but for people not vaccinated this is a very, very dangerous moment. people are ending up in hospitals in unprecedented numbers and kids who are not vaccinated are getting infected largely from the adults in their lives so we have a lot of work to do to protect kids as well. >> what do you make of the mu variant we've been hearing about? >> look, there are going to be more variants, as long as it is a global pandemic and the virus rages around the world we will see new variants. mu comes from colombia. lambda comes from peru. we'll see things like this. i'm not worried right now about the mu variant. i don't see it

ashish jha, dean of brown university school of public health. good morning, dr. jha.ays good to see you. >> good morning. thanks for having me back. >> okay. let's start with the vaccine hesitancy among the if he had cal workers because if i was a nonvaccinated person and i see health care workers are not getting vaccinated, i would think do they know something that i don't? how do you explain the vaccine hesitancy among that group of people? >> yeah, so, gayle, the way i remind people is that 97, maybe 98% of all doctors are vaccinated, 80%, 90% of nurses are vaccinated. so there really isn't a lot of hesitancy, it's a very small group. they're very noisy, they're very loud and they make it look like lots of health care work err are hesitant but they really aren't. most health care workers have gotten the shot already. >> that's really good to know because you're right they are very loud and noisy and get a lot of attention. now here in new york there is a plan possibly to call in the national guard health workers to fill in for some of the shortages. what do you thi

ashish jha made that claim in "the new york times" today.ng it for all players. is there a sense that some believe -- i mean why not require it for 100% of players and staff? >> in baseball it is a collecting bargaining issue. there's a union that represents the players and the owners are convinced and know that the union would not accept a vaccine mandate for the players. so there is only so much that the commissioner's office feels like they can do on this issue. one thing that is to know that in preparing for r this today, i spoke to some folks in baseball, when they have clusters and outbreaks in players who are vaccinated and breakthrough cases. there has always been and most cases a player who's unvaccinated, who's part of that group. so it led some in baseball to believe the problems they had when they have had clusters are because there was at least one unvaccinated player on a team. >> did the fans know who the unvaccinated players are? are there big name in baseball unvaccinated that don't want their fans to know? >> players refuse