ashley allison is a former white house see and positive ledger. scott jennings is the former special assistant depressional george w. bush. thank you both for being with us this afternoon. ashley, i want to dig into one of those economic numbers. only 26% of those asked believed president biden has actually improved the u.s. economy. and that number is an improvement over the poll from last summer. how do you campaign a winning message with those kinds of numbers? >> you have to start talking to people and explaining what the last three and a half years of policies have done to decrease inflation to increase wages, to really meet the american people where they are. right now the numbers are saying in terms of the federal reserve, in terms of mortgages, the numbers are saying that things are going in their interaction. the challenge is people are not feeling that right now. the campaign is going to have to connect facts with feelings. part of that is meeting folks where they are with compassionate messages. proving the point that we are going in the

and ashley allison. scott, you were a lifelong republican. as i noted you worked for bush, you also had been a senior advisor to mitch mcconnell. is this the new litmus test to be the republican vice president? >> well, it's certainly a performative moment for people because obviously donald trump didn't end on very good terms with his last vice president over this very issue. so i'm not surprised to hear them saying that. the reality is what else can you do? the idea you would require all the states to send multiple slates of electors, why don't we just do at the outset and save our lfbls a lot of time and let the congress fight it out? it should be noted the congress has since changed the law and passed the electoral count reform act. i think people have forgotten, but this has all been clarified the vice president has no role in rejecting or doing anything in this other than the ceremonial duties of presiding. fortunately, in the future there should not we any question what this person or can't do. it's performative. they're checking the b

arlette, let's dig deeper right now with our cnn political commentators, ashley allison and s e cupp. ashley, you worked on the biden-harris 2020 campaign. do you believe white house is using the vice president kamala harris effectively right now, is this the right approach >> i think the best use of the vice president is to get her out and talking to voters, which they are doing. and have been doing in an official capacity for the last year or so. i remember when the vice president was named on the ticket and from that moment through election day, i was charged with meeting with her regularly to do exactly what arlette was describing, what's the polling saying? where are voters, where are black men wear a black women, where young people, where's the asian community? the whole coalition necessary to win the vice president is uniquely positioned to speak to those communities. and so getting her out, talking about the issues that voters matter the most is one of the most effective ways to use them. and i am glad to see the campaign is really leaning into that that effort right now. >> w

than a week away with me now cnn political commentator, former obama white house senior adviser, ashley allison, also republican strategist and former rnc communications director doug heye and ashley i want to read you some reporting. the would just got from the white house from mj lee, who has a quote from one campaign official saying, any reporting that were panicked or deeply concerned would be wrong. now, when i read that, i immediately thought about the movie wag the dog, where robert de niro basically says, i've got no information patient for you on the b3 bomber who saying that they're panic to your why are they saying they're not panicked? what's the concern there >> well there's a difference between being panicked and being alert and aware of the current situation that your campaign would be in. we have eight months before this election. and so i understand you can't live in a constant state of panic when you don't have the best night that you thought you were going to have. >> but i do i think that the campaign is aware and is going to be paying attention to this community and dearbor

i want to bring back former republican congressman joe walsh and cnn football commentator ashley allison. okay. i've often heard this phrase of republicans what kinds of caught the car. i want to unpack it further though and wonder, do you think that the advocacy in favor of overturning roe v. wade was short-sighted and not contemplating all the different iterations of what it could really mean. >> laura, i see this as a pro-life former elected official. most republicans never thought roe would really be overturned. you and i were talking, did they anticipate what might happen if it was overturned? they never thought it would. it was the way we raised money. it was the way we riled up the base. the base wanted it overturned, but most republican elected officials never expected it to be. so they weren't ready for any of this. >> so mifepristone, the ivf, all considerations. that's interesting because it sounds like to your point, it's easier to campaign than legislate on the issue well, you would know what your party was thinking better than i would, but i don't necessarily a group believ

and in my opinion joe biden should, should go ahead and retire geoff duncan and ashley allison, to both of you. thank you very much. this important note to our viewers don't ms a moment of cnn's special coverage of the pivotal primary in michigan. our special coverage will begin later tonight, 08:00 p.m. eastern still ahead this hour. we're keeping a very close eye over at the white house. is president biden summons congressional leaders, democrats and republicans for talks at how to avoid a government coming shutdown later this week. the president did raise some eyebrows. what he talked about a possible ceasefire in gaza by this coming monday, we'll go live to tel aviv for reaction plus the health and human services secretary in berlin birmingham, alabama meeting with families who are scrambling to find fertility treatment after the controversial alabama supreme court ruling on embryos, stay with with us. you're in the cnn newsroom >> backroom deals, cia secrets, affairs neighboring corruption, prostitution >> there's so much more to the store. >> united states of scandal with jake tap

jessica dean, appreciate it very much back now, in the room with david urban, ashley allison, and david axelrod. david urban to you first is the republican. trump was smart. a lot of people say trump is all impulse. he actually was strategic in 2016 and picking pence when there was some talk i'm trying to take it away from him at the convention, he picked an evangelical christian conservative for middle america and a quiet at all that down. what does he need to do this time? >> hook. i mean, if it were my pick, right. i think i would pick the gentleman you stop their last senator tim scott does it's trump said, i don't know if he's one of his interviews. he did. tim scott was a terrible ad that for himself, but a tremendous advocate for me. and i think if you look at some of the numbers that if trump picks up just a small percentage, more of african-american men, really, really limits that path forward for joe biden to get a victory. so tim scott's a great order. he fires up the base. he's loyal to donald trump and he will eliminate a path forward for victory for joe biden. i think it l

matt gorman, and cnn political commentator, former white house senior policy adviser, ashley allison. thank you all for being with us this morning. audie, let me just bring you into this conversation. >> there's not that you asked that question by the way of him. i would just like where are you going with? right? >> every state is going to have to deal with this question now where they're going, we think probably is fetal personhood, which is fundamentally this concept that you can be held liable for crimes committed against a child, and that definition is changing as we're seeing in real time, the minute that republicans caught the car far with the dog, the dog caught the car. you are going to have to get into the world of enforcement. and enforcement is where the people are really seeing what it means to live in a world in which these laws have changed women have seen it in this first year. now, ivf clinics, et cetera that doctors who administer that ivf is really covered by insurance the way many people would like. a lot of the people who get it do have the means to get it, which m

let's bring in ashley allison, who is a former senior policy adviser at the white house. ashley, just react to this, because it is really difficult to see how this, granted, is not the same when it comes to trumps document case, but how this doesn't at least politically and validate that as a problem for former president trump, and also create huge problems for president biden when it comes to what it says about his age and memory. >> well, a couple of things. i do think that the cases are different. but there is a baseline that you don't want classified documents outside of a secure location. the difference, though, is that donald trump, when given the opportunity to return those documents, he did not. he did not cooperate because he believes he has some other authority to do things that he doesn't after he was president. joe biden, on the other hand, did allow for the documents to be turned over and cooperated with the investigation. i think it was important in both instances, because of the polarized nature of our society, that both of those have special councils, which

and actually allison and s e cupp, ashley, you worked on the biden-harris 2020 campaign. do you believe the white house is using to vice president kamala harris effectively right now, is this the right approach? >> i think the best use of the vice president is to get her out and talking to voters, which they are doing and have been doing in an official capacity for the last year or so. i remember when the vice president was named on the ticket. and from that moment through election day, i was charged with meeting with her regularly to do exactly what arlette was describing, what's the polling saying? where are voters, where black men where black women, where young people, where's the asian community? the whole coalition necessary to win the vice president is uniquely positioned to speak to those communities. and so getting her out, talking about the issues that voters matter the most one of the most effective ways to use them and i am glad to see the campaign is really leaning into that that effort right now. >> we're gonna be seeing a lot more of her and hearing a lot mo

i want to get some more analysis right now from cnn, political commentators ashley allison and alice stewart and ashley. let me start with you these uncommitted, the uncommitted movement as it's called in michigan right now, what's your assessment? >> well, i think it is a community of people that are hurting right now. they may have family members that are living in gaza. they may have lost family members that are living in gaza, or they may be compassionate to the cause. i think one of the beautiful things about democracy is that your vote is your opportunity to express how you feel about issues. and so as a democratic party that has a big tent coalition, we want to see those expressions. now your job as a candidate is to then go and move those individuals if they're not with you to where they become an a from uncommitted to commit it. and so i think tomorrow's effort is i'm committed folks that are you going to use tomorrow's that effort to make a showing for a policy decision that they would like the biden administration to take, and then the campaign and the biden administration

and so you didn't liberal commentator ashley allison served as the national coalitions director for the biden-harris 2020 it campaign. okay i want to talk about azure, but we won't right now. that's fine with that. we'll talk about it later on. it's fine. but let's talk about the fact that ashley biden is now embracing sort of a tongue and cheek, dark brandon wright, he's he is leaning into it the question is, is it a productive and good strategy or is it cringe to you? >> okay >> overall, i think dark brandon had some highlights pre last night. last night, if the tiktok video would have just stayed where it was, it, they would have nailed it. >> the problem was they then took it over to twitter or x now and tried to make it live a longer life and it fell flat. and this is the trick about social media, because you have to have things in context and at the same time when joe biden posted the dark brandon thing, the same the the bombing and gaza was happening and rafah and so there was this. we know that joe biden wasn't talking about. he was controlling and this is what was happening. bu

ashley allison, and cnn senior political analyst, ron brownstein. ron, let me just start with you. after that tense meeting, house speaker johnson told reporters at the white house, he thinks that congress quote, must take care of america's needs first before any agreement on ukraine aid can get through america's needs. i guess it defines as the border. i mean, we >> we are in the upside down. right. i mean, mike johnson has refused to bring to the floor of the bipartisan border bill that would have probably passed the senate with 60 votes if the house had been willing to do it, and then he he says that the reason they can't deal with it is because there's no legislation on that. this is a momentous moment though. i think it's important understand the magnitude of what we're watching when dwight eisenhower beat robert taft in 1952, which uses the victory in the republican party of the internationalists over the isolation is forces that has been the balance of power in every republican presidency since even under trump, there was significant remnant of reaganite internationalists in

more register that concern on age with biden than they do with trump, even though trump's, as ashley allison noted, just a few years behind. him >> that's very true. you hear that from younger voters. you hear from older voters. my 90-year-old aunt in little silver, new jersey said today, this guy is too old. and we hear this over and over again. the problem for biden is, he has, the issue is not going away. because biden is not going away. every time he presents himself, there is a problem like this. david axelrod was praising him earlier when he invoked his son beau. what is what i heard was he mentioned the rosary from our lady of, and then he didn't mention the church. -- frank sinatra at -- merriweather post not far from here. and when come fly with me was amazing, a few minutes later he can barely remember the words from my way. what did he remember? that he could remember the words to my way. this is going to be a republican -- recurring -- a lot of people forget things, too, he was slightly less responsible than donald trump. and three, there was a lot going on in the world with isra

so there's liberal commentator ashley allison, who served as the national coalitions director for the biden harris 2020 campaign. okay. everyone is monday. >> saturday is the big de the real question. of course. >> she waited until now and the last month or so to really ramp up all of her attacks against trump. of course, you got to wonder what took so long. she said in the past, well, now he's my focus. everyone's out of the race she's going to deliver a state of the race speech tomorrow. you've been talking to activists in south carolina. what's happening on the ground is their support for not a lot of support at all. >> almost all of the elected officials statewide, locally, federal have all endorsed trump most of the senior recognized passes of mega churches in south carolina and i have also sort of instructed their parishioners to get behind the former president >> why is that? why not? haley >> nikki haley for many of those conservatives don't speak the type of language in terms of politics traditionally speaking, that they want. and by that i mean they want someone to take a co

ashley allison, and doug, all here with us. let's start on the age thing. it is what is important here is the context. this is not just one moment that this happened where he mixed up mexico and egypt as he just did there. this comes with a lot of back drop and a lot of concerns. it's not just one moment in the report either. in the last week he's represented dead european leaders who haven't been alive since the '90s, confusing them with almost current leaders. i think it is a bigger picture. and clearly the white house felt the need to address it and that's why they made him come out. >> first, joe biden and donald trump are both old americans. there is nothing that we'll be able to do in this election cycle to change that narrative except go directly at it. and i think, i hear a lot of people saying, i don't think it was a good move. well, you can't just hide. because that's, we're not in a normal political media atmosphere. voters want a fighter. voters want to say, you come at me and you talk about my son and me not remembering when my son died? i'm go

we've got republican strategist alice stewart, former white house senior policy adviser, ashley allison, former senior white house communications aide, jamal simmons and national political reporter for the new york times, astead herndon. ashley message sent perhaps message received because it seems like tonight that the story that you just heard they're being told from the ceasefire campaign is being told over and over again. that is the conversation they've wanted one i think it's great that people are engaging in this primary and in this democracy. i think the most important thing is you go out and vote in a primary. you care about what's happening in this country and that in a whole is a good thing. i think that the biden campaign will need to assess, but it's not just the campaign and sit administration because they're the ones actually dictating the policy here. i think that they should really consider coming out. now, biden said a couple days ago that he thinks is his buyer could come towards the end of the week if that doesn't happen, they might want to consider coming out in ful