this is the question behind all the cooperation you're getting in central asiaen 0 the ndn and, et cetera. the questions is there. so the first problem is whoo? i'd like to add two more to the problems that this person from us beck stan mentioned. first of all, obviously, there is no confidence in the region. there's -- this is a region where there is very little confidence among the corrupts. but does that mean that we have to solve all the problems of confidence around the region before we solve the problem of afghanistan? this heart of asia. there is the problem of the kashmir, the rushal central asia problem, the iran saudi arabia problem, do we solve everything before we solve afghanistan or do we have a process going at the same time? we have a principle of nonintervention, neutrality, sovereignty for afghanistan and confidence building for the region. second problem about this kind of regional push is so big we actually think we actually have a region that can come around afghanistan. now, there is a liberal view and a realist view. the. the liberal promoted in the u.s. and the int