the conversation got quite pleasant and general lee reminded general grant of the nature of the meeting and asked general grant to put his terms in writing. grant sat down and set his terms in writing for general lee principally, the confederate officers would be paroled and allowed to go home. he was going to allow officers to keep their sidearms and personal baggage. general lee later requests and asks if his men can keep the horses. general grant initially says that is not in the terms but thinks about it and says he understands most of these men are farmers and could use the horses. he will not rewrite it the terms that will allow the confederate soldiers to keep the horses if they owned one. general lee's said this would have a very happy affect upon his army. the terms were red over by general lee and given back to general grant. general lee calls for theodore bowers to write out the terms in ink. bowers is nervous and botches the job. he turns it over to eli parker and indian with the best penmanship. he writes out the formal terms for general grant. general lee's staff officer is lieutena

appomattox, when the two generals met general grant was dirty and disheveled and the honorable robert e lee showed up on traveler in a new suit. general grant happened to ask, may i see your sort. generally most graciously let him see the sword and grant took it as surrender. that is a true story of what we call the surrender. so the south did not surrender. host: thank you for sharing. elizabeth: there are many stories connected with the surrender that don't stand up to scrutiny, the less to say. the idea lee offered grant the sword and greg refused to take it is one of them. what you allude to there is the appearance of the two men -- grant, disheveled, muddy frockcoat, lee dressed very handsomely in a dress uniform. the people present in the courthouse read a lot into the appearance of those two men symbolic of those. he had more that she had molded them into a formal army and they were proud of grandpa's disheveled appearance. the confederates saw them -- they were proud of lee's appearance. every detail of the settings -- of the setting here was highly symbolic and americans read a great deal in to be tail. host: was that symbolism only after the fact

during the night, general lee has a council of war with general john gordon james longstreet and fritz lee asking, should they surrender or try to break out? it's determined they will try to break out on the morning of april 9. general lee brings his troops to the village on the morning of april 9. he files off to the right and left into these fields. he's going to attack that ridge. there is a federal cavalry brigade under colonel charles smith. general gordon has about 5,000 men. he's supported by fritz lee on the right with about 4,000 cavalry. the attack begins a little after 7:30 that morning and they successfully drive the federals off that ridge doing a left wheel. but hard-marching infantry from army of the james the 24th corps and division of troops from the united states colored troops had covered over 30 miles on april 8. and they come up and closed the road back down and begin to push gordon's men back into the appatomattox from the river valley. they come from the army of the potomac, and further to the south and east is general custer and general devlin's cavalry swinging around the

general lee for him to read and make any noted corrections. there was a correction to be made. the word education changed had been left out and general lee asked for permission for the word to be included, which was granted. colonel parker completed his task. the terms were handed to general lee. terms as written, however were written in ink. that was provided by colonel marshal. the federals hadn't brought any ink with them. mr. mcclain's ink was gummy. it will have terms of surrender drafted by a gentleman who is not a citizen of the country using ink from the opposing side. general lee wanted him to draft a letter of acceptance. completes one form but is unacceptable to the general and he requires a second effort. he does not have a lot of paper so he must borrow paper from the federal officers. if you're looking for symbolism in this meeting it's all over. if this country is going to have to come together and proceed into the 20th 21st 22nd century, it must use the resources of all of its citizens as well as the physical resources available to them. general grant will then rise and it will be an introduction made. general lee will note tha

here his family lived peacefully until april 8th, 1865, when charles marshall an aid for general lee, askedmr. mclean to show him a place that was suitable for robert e. lee and another general to meet. when his first suggestion was rejected, mr. mclean offered up his own residence for the meeting and the rest is history. mr. mclean and colonel marshall most likely would not have happened if not for a battle that took place about 80 miles to the east in dunwoody county virginia, the battle of five forks. this was a decisive clash that forced confederates to abandon their capital and ultimately led to the surrender of the army of northern virginia. today, the united states postal service is pleased and proud to conclude its series bya5 issuing two new stamps, one thatíu depicts the battle of five forks and one that depicts robert e. lee's sur rend surrender to ulysses s. grant. using thee inging the images of these events, we have the stamps we have today. the battle of five forks stamps features a preproduction of a painting by a french artist who is best known for creating the 360 degree b

during the night, generally has a council of war with james gordon, along street fitzhugh , lee, asking should they surrender or should they try to break out? it is determined they will try to break out on the morning of april 9 general gordon brings his troops through on the . his troops through on the morning of april 9 and files off into these fields. he's going to attack that ridge. there's a federal calvary brigade about 1200 men holding the ridge up there. general gordon has about 5000 men and supported by about 4000 calvary under armistead lawn. the attack begins a little after 7:30 and they successfully drive the federals off that ridge. doing a left wheel. hard marching infantry from the army of the james, 24th corps and a division of troops from united and from the 25th corps had covered 30 miles and they had come up and closed the road act out and begin to push gordon's men back into the appomattox river valley. federal troops are coming from the south. further from the south and east is general custer swinging around the confederate left flank. behind general lee, about four

grant said he wished to meet with general lee one more time before he headed to washington and asked generally to surrender all the confederate armies in the field. there were three other principal armies in the south that had not surrendered. lee declined to surrender those armies on that occasion, saying he could not consult with jefferson davis to know his wishes. many people who come to appomattox don't realize the war did not end at appomattox. effectively, it does because once lee's army surrenders, the others follow suit. general joseph johnston surrendered at the bennett place to union general william sherman. jefferson davis was captured on may 10 and andrew johnson declared the war over on may 10, just a month after the surrender here at appomattox. there was still kirby smith with the army in texas and his official surrender is not until june 2, 1865. the surrender at appomattox was a multi-day process. after leeann grant met, they appoint commissioners to work out the details of how they surrender will take place. that is done by the commissioners on april 10 and the confe

here his family lived peacefully until april 8th, 1865, when charles marshall an aid for general lee, askedmr. mclean to show him a place that was suitable for robert e. lee and another general to meet. when his first suggestion was rejected, mr. mclean offered up his own residence for the meeting and the rest is history. mr. mclean and colonel marshall most likely would not have happened if not for a battle that took place about 80 miles to the east in dunwoody county virginia, the battle of five forks. this was a decisive clash that forced confederates to abandon their capital and ultimately led to the surrender of the army of northern virginia. today, the united states postal service is pleased and proud to conclude its series bya5 issuing two new stamps, one thatíu depicts the battle of five forks and one that depicts robert e. lee's sur rend surrender to ulysses s. grant. using thee inging the images of these events, we have the stamps we have today. the battle of five forks stamps features a preproduction of a painting by a french artist who is best known for creating the 360 degree b

here his family lived peacefully until april 8th, 1865, when charles marshall an aid for general lee, askedto show him a place that was suitable for robert e. lee and another general to meet. when his first suggestion was rejected, mr. mclean offered up his own residence for the meeting and the rest is history. mr. mclean and colonel marshall most likely would not have happened if not for a battle that took place about 80 miles to the east in dunwoody county virginia, the battle of five forks. this was a decisive clash that forced confederates to abandon their capital and ultimately led to the surrender of the army of northern virginia. today, the united states postal service is pleased and proud to conclude its series bya5 issuing two new stamps, one thatíu depicts the battle of five forks and one that depicts robert e. lee's sur rend surrender to ulysses s. grant. using thee inging the images of these events, we have the stamps we have today. the battle of five forks stamps features a preproduction of a painting by a french artist who is best known for creating the 360 degree battle of ge

his staff officer, charles venable, asked lee quote oh general, what will history say of the surrender of the army in the field? lee replied, i know they will say hard things of us. they will not understand that we were overwhelmed by numbers. but that is not the question, colonel. the question is, is it right to surrender this army. if it is right then i will take all the responsibility. lee's outstanding ar till arist offered an alternative to battle or surrender suggesting that the army scatter and continue the war in an informal fashion. the men who have fought under you so long have the right to ask you to spare us the mortification of you asking grant for terms in unconditionable surrender. save us from that. lee quickly rejected that option. citing the likelihood that the soldiers would, quote, supply their want by violence and murder. a state of society throughout the south in which it would require years to recover. responded lee. i have not a single word in reply. he has answered my suggestions from a plane so far above it i was ashamed of having made it. lee's wisdom in seek

general lee and find out what the status of the army was. that young fellow who did that found general lee at rice's depot and asked for a message to take back to the president and general lee is said to have remarked a few more sailor's creeks and it will all be over ended just as i expected it would end from the beginning. i suspect he means beginning of the campaign rather than beginning of the war. that night general sheridan sent a message back to city point to abraham lincoln who was visiting there. in that message he said if the thing is pressed i think lee will surrender to which lincoln sent a forwarding message, quote, let the thing be pressed. so at sailor's creek on the evening of april 6, 1865 the army of northern virginia had but 72 hours to continue to exist. thank you and i hope this afternoon you folks would like to come out. it is about 15 minutes from here to sailor's creek battlefield. all you need to do is get on route 460 east like you are going to richmond and petersburg just a couple miles out of town you will come to a major intersection route 306. it says to richmond. just turn on like you are going to richmond. go

his staff officer, charles venable, asked lee quote oh general, what will history say of the surrender of the army in the field? lee replied, i know they will say hard things of us. they will not understand that we were overwhelmed by numbers. but that is not the question, colonel. the question is, is it right to surrender this army. if it is right then i will take all the responsibility. lee's outstanding ar till arist offered an alternative to battle or surrender suggesting that the army scatter and continue the war in an informal fashion. the men who have fought under you so long have the right to ask you to spare us the mortification of you asking grant for terms in unconditionable surrender. save us from that. lee quickly rejected that option. citing the likelihood that the soldiers would, quote, supply their want by violence and murder. a state of society throughout the south in which it would require years to recover. responded lee. i have not a single word in reply. he has answered my suggestions from a plane so far above it i was ashamed of having made it. lee's wisdom in seek

ceremony, and general lee appeared in an immaculate uniform, as he appears to be wearing right now because he thought he would be come that she would become general grant's prisoner. i would like to ask generally did he consider he might be arrested and charged with the crime of treason? thank you very much. guest: that did come up after the war and i communicated with general grant, pointing out i had a parole. i had gone home and politically there was a call to have me arrested and tried for treason. i wanted to settle the matter and i communicated with general grant and the matter died. host: were you concerned you had not had a chance to speak to confederate president jefferson davis? guest: i communicated with him, but i don't know if he received any of my communications will stop the lines of communication were bad and jefferson davis had gone on ahead by rail. i sent him the message, letting him know the situation and i felt like i had a duty to my soldiers. once that happened, it was my decision. host: let's go to jay and miami, florida. caller: i'm calling from miami. my question dealt with the same topic -- which was surrendering before president jefferson. some people have

general sheridan and ord at the top of the ridge in front of you. on his way to the mclean house. in fact, he asked sheridan where general leewas and sheridan said he is over in that house waiting to surrender to you. and he invited sheridan to come along with him. he said, come on, let's go. when grant enters the parlor, lee met him. there, indeed was a contrast between the two men. first of all, lee was 58 years old, grant was 42. there was a 16-year difference between each -- the two men. and sometimes, i think too much is made about their dress. general lee put on a new uniform that day. said he expected to be general grant's prisoner, and wanted to make his best appearance. general grant was never a fancy dresser. he had just rode over 20 miles on virginia muddy roads. as you probably experienced today. grant wasn't riding by himself. he had his staff with him. had an escort. third west virginia calvary. none of grant's staff was clean. it wasn't like the mud just stuck to grant and no one else. they were all mud splattered. general lee had put on a new uniform and he rode only about a mile and a mile and a half to this

and general lee reminded general grant of the mature of thise ureuree ureure -- nature of this meeting and asked grant to put his terms in writing. grant sat down and put his terms in writing. the federal officers were allowed to be paroled and go home. he was going to allow officers to keep their sidearms and personal baggage, and general lee later requests if their men can keep their horses. grant initially says no but thinks about it for a minute and says that he understands that most of these men are small farmers and they could use those horses, and he will not rewrite it into the terms but will allow the confederalte forces to keep their horses if they have one. the terms are read over by general lee and given to general grant. general grant calls out bowers. he is nervous he botches the job and turns it over to elig parker. he actually writes out the formal terms for general grant. general lee's staff officer is lieutenant colonel charles marshall. he writes the acceptance letter. they exchange those letters. that's how the surrender is affected, the exchange of the letters. they both do

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general saying that ramadi is not symbolic in any way. debbie lee's son mark was the first navy seal killed there. she's written an open letter asking for an apology from the general. >> doesn't sound like there's going to be an apooming any time soon. i told them the right thing to do is to make a public apology. we've sacrificed greatly over there. we have men and women who have been blown to smithereens there. my son's blood is on that soil. to say it's not symbolic, it's just unconscionable to me that happens. >> the general has not responded. chairman of armed services committee blasted john -- blasted the remark. >> the message to isis we don't care. go ahead and take the capitol of anbar province the heart of the sunnis that they need if they're going to beat isis. >> you have a visceral reaction to this. >> he should apologize. this is highly, highly insensitive. if that were my son or daughter who lost their lives and you're saying it's not symbolic, what kind of statement does that make? john mccain says it does downplay it. we're not taking it seriously and b do we not value the lives of people who are in harm's way by de

general grant. and i would rather die a thousand deaths. lee sent threethrough the lines to grant. the last one was direct. i ask for an extension of possibility and surrender of this army. at 10:30 april 9, 1865, the guns of the armies fell silent. lee waited for a response under an apple tree along the road near the narrow banks of the appomattox river, about a mile from us. not far from the banjo playing at their home. for a time, the general fell asleep, he awaited word from grant. before 1:00, an officer bearing a flag of truce and a note from grant arrived at the apple tree headquarters. the note informed lee, i will push forward to the front. it is my pleasure to call forth patrick schroeder. he is a historian the national park service. he will carry our story from the apple tree to this minute. [applause] patrick schroeder: thank you john. think of all of you for being in attendance today to her this important date in our history. the union officer carrying grants letter was lieutenant cap -- lieutenant -- they found lee resting under the apple tree by the appomattox river. grants message directed lee to

asked him to surrender a day earlier on april 8th. or should they continue fighting? they can fight through that calvary and continue the march with general joseph johnston. so that night, general lee orders him to advance with his infantry. he's going to be supported by the calvary and armstead's artillery. george crook's division takes position holding the road and it is under command of this fella here of the first main cabin. they can shoot 16 shots, but the rest of the brigade mounted rifles, 6th and 13 for ohio. they lay along a french rail that they've built up in front of them. they have two guns of artillery su port under the sky, lieutenant james lord. that's his west point image. they file off to the fields in the right and the left. they're going to do a left wheel and drive the federal calvary off of that ridge. they end up advancing until about quarter to 8 that morning. there's john gordon for you. so the confederates do this left wheel. there's really just too many if you count them all up. you've got about 9,000 confederates. one soldier says we were on foot and the enemy drove us nearly a mile. then i had to drop him and run. the enemy was so close. i was struck i

ask chris any questions? yes, sir? >> why were there no rations after the war? the south lost, the can read or see lost. there were postwar memoirs written. what happened? chris: tracy mentioned this. general lee's headquarters was to far west of the city. while lee was there one of his aides, walter taylor instead of being available had gone off to richmond to get married. apparently in richmond they got a message from lee's headquarters, saying we are preparing to withdraw our troops from the city. then send a message back to the house in lee's headquarters asking her more specific instruction. they broke through the union lines and lee was forced to abandon his headquarters. when that second message came for where do we send them nobody was there to receive them. that comes out of the four vines . it is the tendency -- the appendixes. i think that is probably what happened. >> anyone else have a question? ron has a question. he is making his way to the microphone. i will throw something out for chris here. over seven days, 100 miles, is there a particular incident that is most intriguing to you during the campaign that you covered in your talk here? humorous incident, kind of a wild moment? c

the other thing lee loft has asked know check to make sure you all know that you're on annual leave. but in my final act as attorney generalw it. this has been a great six years. being at the justice department has -- i say the last six years, but the reality is i've been at this department since 1976, you know off and on. started as a line lawyer in the public integrity section of the criminal division. it's going to be hard for me -- not going to be it is hard for me to walk away from the people who i love and who represent this institution that i love so much. but it is time. it's time to make a transition. change is a good thing. i'm confident that in the work you have done that we've laid a foundation for better things over the course of the next couple years. i think that as we look back at these past six years, what i want you all to understand is you have done truly historic historic and big things. no matter where you look. if you look at -- from the basic stuff, you know. this department is restored. it's restored to what it always was and what it must always be. free of politicization focused on the mission, and

general kathleen claiming she defamed him. thomas who asked that we not show his face back then because of his work in law enforcement told fox 29 undercover he was the driver for informant leedriving a bmw he would take lee to meet politicians who were offered bribes in return for votes. attorney general kane shut down the probe claiming it was possibly racially tainted she also said she had statement in which thomas is quoted as saying he was told to target blacks. thomas argued last spring absolutely not true. >> i am extremely outraged that not only is my name now being mentioned, but it's being mentioned just to be tarnished. no one would again ever suggest or order me to target members of my own race or any race. it just would not happen. >> reporter: now again mr. thomas works undercover so back then he asked us not to show his face. now, thomas has sued kane personally. he sued her personally. he's asking for a hearing actually in this case to clear his name. the attorney general had no comment. the philadelphia district attorney has charged five politicians with corruption in the connections to this case. the inquirer was the first to report them iain, back to you.

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