c-span,aska weekend on c-span.org, or listen on the c-span radio. "washington journal" continues. dr. paul spiegel joining us from the john hopkins. he served as the director for the center for humanitarian health. good morning. guest: good morning. the centerus about and your work on this idea of humanitarian health. guest: sure. the center for humanitarian health has three objectives. itin future humanitarians, is research. go toe a long way to improve how we actually respond to humanitarian emergencies. and finally, in power meant, ment inents, -- empowere students, governments. host: apply that to what we see at theildren being held southern border, what is the long-term and short-term effect of that happening? guest: there are short-term, medium-term, and long-term effects. there is a lot of data looking at trauma against children. started in 1995 with the centers of disease control. what happens is when you have this stress that we cvs children are under when they are separated from their parents, a actually can -- that we see these children are under when they are separated