i asked a teacher about this, though, pedro, and she told me i can't spend two more minutes having someone memorize a picture of the president in the 1800s. i've got a lot of other things going on in the classrooms. they've got a lot of challenges. >> absolutely. >> what are we supposed to do about it? >> what's on the test in most tests in elementary school is math and literacy. where does social study fit? where does science fit in? where was the foreign language fit in? what gets tested is what goes into the classroom. we can't allow a test to drive instruction. assessment should be used to diagnose needs and not rank kids. policymakers who don't under the issue who continue to focus narrowly on tests even while the evidence shows our kids aren't being well educated. >> bill, i want to read you what arne duncan said, the results tell us as a country we are failing to provide children with high quality, well-rounded education, that's why we're putting greater emphasis on art, drama, and music in an emphasis to fix no child left behind. what do you think? >> yeah, well, i think that's fin