i'm a member of the commi, asou well know. you have been promised full cooperation by the deputy commissioner, mr. wuerful. i have been present when he has tried to inform the committee of full cooperation. and now we find out what full cooperation is, more especially after the president has indicated that these so-called scandals are phony scandals, then repeated by mr. lew. you have stated that there are 65 million pages that should be available to the committee, which is stunning. stunning in the job that we would have to do. but out of those requested, only 21,500 documents have been presented. and of the 21,500, only 15,000 of -- well, oh, 15,000 pages but those are nonpriority documents. thereby that if you try to figure out when this would be done, it would be in 2016. is that correct? mr. hatch: that's right. mr. roberts: i am stunned by this. mr. hatch: it may actually go beyond that. mr. roberts: i would imagine if you do the match and how much time we have to actually do this, but i'm stunned. this wasn't what we we