asperger s can compartmentalize.p it in a different universe, the universe is not affecting them as much. i had a nasty divorce and i still had feelings -- i think i did pretty well in compartmentalizing. i didn't start damning one side or the other. but it was all business. i don't think -- it's hard to know. you are not your best witness when it comes to trying to figure out whether something is effective or not. still, it's a possibility. >> i didn't know you had asperger's. is that what you meant in february of 2016? in one of your outlooks, you wrote about -- "the big short." you said you shared an attribute or reflection with one of the heroes. it wasn't his glass eye. >> if you have a minute and a half, it's a story. he was a great writer, and there was a chapter -- the things that asperger's have, that michael had as well. some of them were not being able to look somebody in the eye, which i'm not doing very well at the moment, singular hobbies like collecting. i thought, that's me. i took the book out, i sai

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s? it explain aut lot. i am sort of proud of it, or because it explains a lot about me. all asperger's and not geniuses, the intelligence thing is not necessarily a big part of it. but my personal behavior and my ability to relate to people, my singular hobbies, stamp collecting, and this, i said, hey, so maybe i do. so i did go to a psychiatrist in meeting i said do you , think i have asperger's? she said, oh, yeah. erik: more of our conversation with bill gross returns. how he used asperger's the his advantage and what he thinks has changed most in financial markets. ♪ erik: welcome back to a conversation with bill gross. who knew the one-time bond market king had asperger's? just one of the base price is gross shared on one of the last days of his extraordinary career. there is a line of thinking, i'm sure you are familiar with it, that says people with that condition, i would not call it an affliction, do better as investors. do you think that is true? bill: i think so. erik: why? bill: as i have understood it, in my experience, it has allowed me to stay at 30,000 feet, as opposed

he has been diagnosed with asperger's syndrome and believes it has helped him in business. thinking,s i am sure you are familiar with with thatays people condition -- i would not call it an affliction -- do better as investors. do you think that is true? bill: i think so. , in myve understood it experience, it has allowed me to stay at 30,000 feet as opposed to on the ground. as other people would know, when i come into a room and they say bill, you know, i'm up here. that's not necessarily good in terms of one to one. people think you are angry or an ole or whatever, but it helps you to focus on longer-term things without getting mixed up in the details. i think it is very important, because it allowed me to take what we call the secular approach at pimco, the long-term view, a good view to take as an asperger. fun were a day-to-day had -- hedge fund manager, not so good. erik: interesting. do you think it helps you identify patterns better? but i neverly, thought of it in those terms. probably from the standpoint of yeah. feet, it allows me to just forget about the minutia and to fo

asperger's. mei said why didn't you tell and she said because i thought it might hurt your feelings. erik: you did not know this about yourself? mr. gross: until i read it in that book. 70's sort of proud of it otherwise i would not be telling you. it explains a lot about me. asperger's are not geniuses. behavior and ability to relate to people. my singular hobbies, i said maybe i do. so i did go to a psychiatrist. said do youeting i think i have asked -- and she said oh yeah. tom: bill gross will be listening today to michael mckee and discussion with one william dudley. 9:00 p.m. in new york and through the weekend as well. 7:00g up shortly in the hour. the former new york federal reserve president, bill dudley, ash xan sachs goldman sachs. this is bloomberg. ♪ this isn't just any moving day. this is moving day with the best in-home wifi experience and millions of wifi hotspots to help you stay connected. and this is moving day with reliable service appointments in a two-hour window so you're up and running in no time. show me decorating shows. this is staying connected with xfinity to make moving... simple. easy. awesome. stay connected while you move with the best wif