and fine. >> elie assaad.f you will. >> i think he sort of felt he needed to guide this conversation more affirmatively, and at times i think he, he may overdo it. >> i was never good at being no type of scam artist. this is, this is the first time in my life i'm ever really trying to run a scam. >> and he was, like, "all right, so what do you need?" i knew that i had to make something up right then and there. course, i was not prepared for any kind of list, i didn't bring any kind of list, beuse this was just something i was just brainstorming on. so i wrote a whole bunch of crazy things down on the list. i needed knee-high boots, thgs that didn't make sense. >> yes, i put guns on there. i couldn't name them, he kept asking me the name for them. i didn't know any name of guns, 'cause i never owned a gun. the list that he took he tore up several times, and eventually, there was a list that was made. and he was, like, "i'll go back and talk to abbas about everything and we'll work on getting the money to you."