loyal to assad. then, on november 2, 2013, all of a sudden 14 clans from different tribes pledged allegiance to isis. since then it has become the capital of isis. and this change of area was nearly bloodless. the forces in that part just switched from being pro-assad to pro-isis. and this tells us that there's no such thing as moderate sunni tribe or radical sunni tribes. the tribes are not moderate or radical. and when the tribes pledge allegiance to isis, that's very different from individuals joining isis. individuals join based on ideology, based on direct salary that they receive from whichever group. the tribes join for different reasons. the tribes hedge and they look for the strongest power. and when the tribes of raka saw that assad was going to fall, they changed and then the only strong power that they found was isis. of course because we were calling them carpenters, teachers and dentists and withholding all the kinds of arms. so the only strong power that they could join at the time was

what happened was that assad resisted. the turkish advised for him to go down the path that egypt had gone. and instead used brute force against his opponents. and then the turkish government, mr. erdogan, committed to help the opposition against him. instead of relying on the idea of turkey as a model, as an inspiration, it became the supporter of heart force. in essence denying the essence of what the arab spring promised. now we have a situation where there relationships between a number of countries in the middle east have gone bad. the gulf states are not on the best terms with mr. erdogan. and turkey has difficult relations with the central government of iraq. >> here we are in the scene today is turkey forfeiting it's future influence in the deliberations over how the whole region gets settled by hanging back in the way that it is? >> well, this is precisely the question that the government ought to be grappling with, instead of whether it should or should not get involved in this war. in essence we're discussing wa

were coming against assad. so with isis, they can pick up the flag and pretend this is ideology. it predates what is going on . >> very interesting. if there is anything you wanted to add. we have seen isis military capabilities, if you want to talk about that. >> yes. i want to go back to the military question. but one of the things, when we started air strikes in syria, we were only doing them at night time, so isis developed a battle rhythm. okay. of the air strikes are over. we were not doing anything during the daytime. why? we did not want to lose u.s. pilots. we were afraid of the defense capability. we allowed isis to move captured u.s. and syrian equipment in support of the fight. so the air strikes started happening during the daytime. the problem is, all that equipment was already moved. now one of the good thing about the targeting it is they are generated by kurds, and you have seen the smart removed from iraq into syria to help. rival kurdish groups fighting a common enemy. and that is one of the

isis is backed by maybe assad.re getting money from the fundamentalist regimes in the area. how is a group like this going to defeat them and create something stable? >> by our will and it's the future of our children, grand children. it's important. we have been fighting them for 40 years. the world has kept silent. they moved against isis. they do nothing. we the people of syria carry on our fight and will fight until we win back our freedom and move our quest to a democratic society. [ applause ] >> jon: i wish you very well with that. what do you say now a collision has formed. they have strategic air strikes that they believe will weaken isis. is this a round robin? will they have to fight and defeat isis and take on assad. it seems the collision is unwilling to utilize their power against assad. >> american friends have to know we have been fighting isis. since the first quarter of the year. we have been fighting two fronts. we have been fighting isis and the regime at the same time with little headway. we ca

not to fight assad just to keep -- and by the way in 2007-2008, assad did the same thing. he armed the tribes in the south against the jews because they were educating the jews against assad. -- agitating the jews against assad. so these fault lines now predate isis. now they can pick up the isis flag. representatives for ideology -- >> but it's really sunni-arab tribes. >> it predates the actual whates going on now. >> very interesting. mike, if there's anything you want to add. bani. ko but i think that's one of the places where we've seen isis' military capabilities come out. if you want to talk about that for a second. >> yes. with kobani, i want to back to the military question with isis. but one of the things when we started air strikes in syria, we were only doing them at nighttime so isis developed a battle rhythm so they were like ok, the air strikes is over let's move this equipment towards town. we weren't doing anything during the day. why? because we didn't want to lose pilots. 's were afraid of assad defense capabilities. we allowed isis to move captured u.s.

loyal to assad. then, on november 2, 2013, all of a sudden 14 clans from different tribes pledged allegiance to isis. since then it has become the capital of isis. and this change of area was nearly bloodless. the frible forces in that part just switched from being pro-assad to pro-isis. and this tells us that there's no such thing as moderate sunni tribe or radical sunni tribes. the tribes are not moderate or radical. and when the tribeds pledge allegiance to isis, that's very different from individuals joining isis. individuals join based on ideology, based on direct salary that they receive from whichever group. the tribes join for different reasons. the tribes hedge and they look for the strongest power. and when the tribes of raka saw that assad was going to fall, they changed and then the only strong power that they found was isis. of course because we were calling them carpenters, teachers and dentists and withholding all the kinds of arms. so the only strong power that they could join at the

they are owed a great deal and assad has to pay up.there will be an extremely important question and i think you see coherence in this regime around which the alawites of close ranks will look potentially more fragile way but for now the story is clear that there've not been fractures and breaks. >> i wonder if mr. sub forward, and on the possible analysis that this era this period in these peoples are characterized by a long war between iran and iraq. out of that war came a very strong capable military cadre and especially special forces men who worked for saddam hussein. these now form the core for the islamic state and i think that is as much of a characteristic as an ideological characteristic. we have a couple of pentagon -- pentagon guys here today. >> or would like to further the expertise of the pentagon guy said that the case. from what everything i have read yes, i think is in the case of the alawites as we are talking a minute ago a lot of these groups in the syrian civil war in iraq worked generally appearing to be a monoli

assad and some of them of what he 13. that's almost two years. even though raqqa is first the son of raqqa is 300 miles away from damascus. that's almost a six hour drive. it means it was thinly populated with the intensity forces but it meant that the assad elite force could not go into thin because of its a long distance. ilogistics would be hard, supply lines would be thinly stretched. so all these two years, raqqa remained loyal to assad. then on november 2, 2013, all of a sudden 14 clans from different tribes pledged allegiance to isis. since then raqqa has become the capital of isis. this change was nearly bloodless. the tribal force is known as -- just switched from being pro-assad to pro isis. this tells us there's no such thing as moderate sunni tribes are radical tribes. that tribes are not radical. when the tribes budget allegiance to us that's a different from some individuals joining us. individuals join based on ideology, based on -- receive from whichever crew. that tribes joined for different reasons. that

we can't live with bashar al assad. he slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people, including with chlorine gas, and, of course, we can't support isis. and you look at the kurdish situation, the turks are furious that we are in this essence backing a kurdish enclave in northern syria because they don't want to see a kurdish state. there are no easy options. and i think what hagel has come down and said listen, if this isn't working, we have to come up with a coherent policy. the problem for hagel, i understand, he's been cut out of a lot of the decision making. it's top down. the president, the vice president, susan rice, who are making the policy and they only bring him in at the end and he's unhappy about that. >> we'll see what he says about this at the bottom of the hour. colonel reese, there are a lot of u.s. allies in that part of the world who hate bashar al assad's regime. they would like to see the u.s. launch air strikes against these syrian positions that are associated with the regime there, but that hasn't

with that boost us on -- boost assad in any way?> if you look at things realistically, as a sunni more or less, assad is the only one capable of fighting the militias of the islamic state in theory a proper. it would not make sense to fight the syrian government now. the american approach is to fight the islamic state first and then see what is happening with the syrian regime. for the time being, no appetite by western governments to fight bashar assad and the -- and the islamic state at the same time. the turkish government wants to go-ahead because they hope that once the sharp assad gets toppled, they can get a strong -- once bashar assad gets toppled, they can have a strong influence in syria. it's very dangerous, because those -- both russia and iran continue to support the syrian regime. this could mean that the crisis is getting more dangerous. >> what does this mean for the+ call for troops on the ground to move? is that disingenuous? is it not wanted? or do they need to give the kurds better weapons? what needs to happen n

officials are adamant there is no deal struck with assad. >> this is not about assad, this is about isil reporter: but moderate opposition rebels believe isil is trying to force the u.s. to talk with them, aiming to drive them from front line positions against isis. so that only assad's forces face the terror group on the battlefield. there by cementing common cause with the u.s.-led coalition. the assad reseem wants to present itself as the sole solution to terrorism and to fight isis in syria. >> reporter: far beyond kobani, assad's strategies are still at play, and some of them, like in aleppo, appear to be working for him. nic robertson, cnn, london. >>> we'll turn to the u.s. next. the ferguson, missouri police chief talks to cnn about his future amid reports he's going to step down. >>> the police chief in ferguson, missouri denies reports he's going to quit. >> that's right. here's what thomas jackson told cnn's jason carroll in an exclusive interview. >> where does it stand, are you going to resign? >> no, i'm going to stay and see this through. >> straightforward there. >> that'

in syria qatar aims to unseat the regime of bashar al-assad. that's a goal that the united states endorses. but qatar's methods have drawn intense global criticism. that's because it's directed at support not just to groups opposed to the political regime, but critics say to arm islamic extremists. >> it is clearly that qatar has supported more of the hard line groups. >> the u.s. treasury has accused qatar had a hosting terrorist financ financiers. two private individuals it accused of funneling money to al-qaeda in syria. while the treasury did not say that the two ever acted on behalf of the qatari government, it criticized qatar's, quote, permissive terrorist financing environment." it does work with other nations includes the united states, britain, germany, and france along with six countries in the region to provide support to syria's armed opposition. there are certainly those who are quick to point out that qatar supports all kinds of groups, and oftentimes those who are critical of the qatari possessions have a competing foreign polic

we're finally acting now but we're not acting against the assad regime but isis, why not assad? syria will not be solved unless assad is toppled. >> of course. we're not going to be able to generate a sunni opposition if we're hitting isis and allowing assad to gain that way. with the turks, there's a cynical element to what they are doing. turkey has a large kurdish minority population of its own and had to deal with kurdish terrorist groups for many years. and there's a view in turkey that this destruction of another kurdish enclave solves a problem for them, basically diminishes a kurdish threat. >> the administration would say, look, yeah, this is limited, john kerry said, we're not going all in. we're going to degrade and destroy, we're not -- and if we follow your strategy, we'll be dragged into gradual escalation and before you know it, we'll have ten thousand troops on the ground. >> even at that level, degrade, perhaps, destroy, not even close. let me give you a perfect example this week. the syrian kurds in kobani, standing up to is sis, say this is city fighting we ne

so all these two years, raqqa remains loyal to assad because of the tribes were still loyal to assad. all of a sudden plans from different tribes pledged allegiance to isis. answer them raqqa has become the capital of isis. this change of raqqa was nearly double. the tribal forces just switched from being pro-assad to being pro-isis. this tells us there's no such thing as modern sunni tribal radical sunni try. the tribes are not moderate or radical. when the tribes pledged allegiance to isis, that's very different from individuals joining isis. individuals join based on ideology, based on salary they receive from whichever group can tribes join for different reasons. the tribes looking for the strongest power. when the tribes of raqqa saw assad was were to fall, they changed and then the only strong power that they found was isis. of course, because we're calling them teachers and doctors and dentists and withholding all the kind of arms. so the only strong power they could join at the time was isis. this is how these tribes he came isis. and by the same token the trib tribes, ma thes

and more effort against assad.he turks want the kurds in kobane taking the fight not only to isis, but also to assad. >> what you think it will be? >> i hope it will be that we will also take on assad and do t he no-fly zone. secretary kerry indicated, we have to change of policy, frankly. >> the foreign minister says it is not realistic for turkey to conduct a ground operation on its own. has the u.s. box itself and by saying no ground forces? >> i have long advocated ground forces, not only observers but if necessary our own combat forces. how can we ask of the people to send young men and women to die, and we are not willing to send a soldier on the ground? >> suggesting kobane was not strategically important, what message does that send? >> it is in cover hands of all. we have american pilots risking the lives, so why would we say something so criminally stupid? what are the people fighting for kobane going to think? it is in cover hence the ball for me, because this is strategically vital to the middle east. e

and can they defeat isis without taking down assad. what is your sense of that? >> i think that -- >> schieffer: should we attack syrian forces? >> i think right now, the real issue is isis. isis has taken over supplies in syria, it has got basically uses syria as a safe haven and as a launching ground for attacks and i think wisely a decision has been made that isis tarts in syria and iraq are equally targetable. as far as assad is concerned, i think that certainly don't have to prop them up and you don't have to make kind of a deal with them anymore than you have to cut a deal with iran. they are going to fight isis anyway. you don't have to reward them and reward iran with a nuclear deal anymore than you have to reward assad with bringing back the chemical weapons because he is fighting these guys as iran is fighting them anyway. so i would say -- i wouldn't say what to do -- i wouldn't prop up assad up but i would in any way, and i wouldn't give him immunity but focus the effort on isis on one side and preventing iran from getting

strategy, which is just to go after isis and not to go after assad. he said that they are absolute willing, able, and determined to be what he called coalition of the willing but very clear red line. first and foremost, obviously turkish troops would be the most plausible boots on the ground but only if the strategy is to go after assad as well. because he said, unless assad is defeated, then this will continue over and over again as it has over the last few years. he also said that they are going to bargain very, very hard about joining. here's what he said when i asked him about what he wants in return to joining the military campaign. >> we want to have a to-fly zone. we want to have a safe burden on our border. >> if you don't get that, what will happen? >> those who request something from us should understand our needs as well. >> there you go, wolf. he said it's a two-way street. and he spelled out why they need a no-fly zone and safe havens. because, he said, if there isn't such, no matter what town is saved or what town falls on the border, pr

assad best friend is iran.e shiits and iran is the greatest exporter of terrorism far worse than isis. next they are a client state and hesbollah is their action agent and the nightmare solution is iran a lined with syria to get nuclear weapons and the first thing to worry about our national security and terrorist threats to the united states and the greatest terrorist is not isis it is iran and their u# surrogates. >> colonel hampton you think that joining forces with iran is a good idea and tell us why? >> absolutely. they are going to get nuclear weapons xñ if they were anly of the united states they wouldn't use them on us and we could single handedly cut the knows off of the terrorist funding because they would do it. they crave international recognition and economic splugz to their problems more than supporting terrorism and if they were an ally of us and have a vested interest in defeating isis. >> what doesn't make sense to me, is that iran and syria, they are shia. and natural allies. we shouldn't have

what to do about assad. for three years we have an air campaign and he's benefiting assad. so what is the u.s. policy and, wolf, this is a key point of contention not only within the administration as we've seen here but between nato allies and the u.s. and turkey. turkey is saying, it's fine fighting isis but what are you going to do about assad and some say they have the benefit of fighting isis because it confronts turkey's chief ally here, which is assad. >> and so forth the u.s. is launching air strikes against isis in syria but not against the syrian military, bashar al assad. >> no. and frankly they are still massacring against assad a year ago when the president chose not to in response to the chemical weapons. >> millions of syrian refugees displaced. >> and every day more. >> thank you, jim sciutto, for that report. >>> let's discuss what is going on with congressman peter king of new york. he's president of the house intelligence committee. thank you for joining us. you know, the sunni awakening, the u.s. goes in there with its friends into iraq. they tell these

-led coalition also targets resident assad's forces in other parts of syria. why is it so symbolic for us? just art oft to be the game to satisfy for a few , investing in public opinion just to save kobane. > save thee want to syrian people regardless of sick arian background. the brutal kobane, war is in its fourth year. demand fort standing a no-fly zone is now gaining ground. but no one agrees on how to help syrians end this war. bbc news, istanbul. the battle on against islamist state, i spoke with a senior fellow for middle eastern studies at the council on foreign relations. had the turkish prime minister asking what seems to be a fair question. why should he commit ground troops when the u.s. and its european allies won't do the same? >> the idea behind the turkish ground troops is that kobane and isis are on turkey's doorstep. certainly, they have reason to be concerned about committing ground forces. in theay be retaliation turkish streets and they don't believe that the western strategy, as it said out really deals with the problem in the problem fro

it is disgraceful and immoral on our parts saying we are not going to go after assad. fear assad and his ins -- and his influence just as much as they fear isis. i am disappointed in turkey. this is unbelievable. we would take 5000 syrians, train them, and then send them back to be barrel bombed by assad? i agree with the turks that if you're really going to change this momentum, you have to have a buffer zone and no-fly zone. that has been rejected by this president. >> your friend joe biden the other day got in a little trouble when he said not only turkey, but the uae and saudi arabia were a big part of the problem in terms of syria. i'm curious on the uae and saudi arabia, whether you think he's basically right or do you think he's doing more blame-shifting their? >> i think it's obvious there are wealthy people in those countries you just named including cutter that have been providing support for isis, al qaeda -- that they have been providing that help. cutter is probably the most duplicitous in many respects. it should not have said it. i happen to have great a

. >> assad is the reason we have isis.is brutality that led to the extremism. you rightly pointed out there's 3.2 million refugees, about 200,000 have left in the last five, six weeks when the conflict picked up. 3 million fled fleeing assad's brutalityities. while the u.s. is focusing on kobani, the attacks continue by assad. there might be one day -- then he figured out it didn't, and the barrel bombs have continued. >> we talked so much about isis, which is bar baric, awful, and has dominated coverage, but assad continues sort of unabated and with cover basically for the last several months. when you talk about the refugees, the numbers are staggers, turkey 1.6 million, 1.06 million refugees, lebanon 1.1 million syrian refugees in a country whose total population is 4.5 million. what does it mean tangibly that lebanon is saying we can't take any mortgage? >> i think two things are driving it. at a point where there's an australia jay government that's come to power about you fueling the fear of people heading its way, o

assad is a close iranian ally.ad that he's still in power. the president has shown deep reluctance since the beginning of this syrian crisis in 2011 to confront assad, to confront iran and to confront hezbollah. he still holds out hope of an iranian nuclear deal and as a result, he's done nothing to actually stem the tide of bloodshed and this onslaught that assad has launched against husband -- his own people. >> but critics are looking at obama and saying why? i'm not sure you can answer that. >> the president has said the tide of war is receding, that al qaeda was on the run. he called the islamic state a junior varsity team. the president unfortunately when it comes to syria has gotten it consistently wrong and that's not just my opinion as you alluded to. that's the opinion of leon panetta and hillary clinton and many former officials of the obama administration who believe that the president's syria policy has been one of neglect and that ultimately it has gotten us into a situation where in the heart of the

they're fighting assad and isil. what about the u.s. at least enforcing a no-fly zone against assad so the syrian government forces can't bomb our allies? >> you saw that there was a discussion about that in the last three or four days here in the united states. some members of the u.s. government speculating that that might be a possibility, a no-fly zone in the future. the thing we learned in iraq between 1991 and 2003 when we had -- when we led no-fly zones in the northern and southern parts of iraq is they're extremely labor-intensive and costly as well. so you'd have to have a collection of countries to undertake that no-fly zone in syria. right now the unfortunate problem is while france and britain and denmark and belgium as well as some of the arab countries are willing to conduct air operations in iraq, they're not willing to in syria. you have to have countries being willing to fly in syrian air space in order to, obviously, enforce a no-fly zone. >> that is one of the problems of the coalition, what you just mentioned. let's

united states has a goal that does not include toppling assad. >> turkey wants to see assad go.re not actively doing anything in the eyes of the turks and arab allies, like qatar, who want to see united states getting assad to go. not attacking, but equipping the rebels in a more aggressive and robust way. that hasn't happened and that's why we're seeing these back door bargaining tactics taking place. the turks are saying to americans, you want our help with defeating isis, we need your help in defeating assad. either get on board with that or we won't have a deal in trying to solve this. caught in the middle are syrian people dying from both, isis and syrian -- >> the united states has failed to really help kurds in northern iraq in the past. now you see kurds dying in great number. we went to great lengths to save a religious minority under siege from isis at one point. it does strike me the kurds are being left aside here. is there anyone advocating for them in washington? >> well, there's certainly been running through the obama administration this sense of responsibility t

against i.s.i.l., largely because the government believes the regime of syrian president bashar al-assad is a big threat. it wants washington to add washington to the target list. it won't. turkey is yet to give permission for the u.s. to make use of military bases, bases that would help the campaign against i.s.i.l. >>> now, shi'a deployed hundreds of police officers near the border with its northern neighbour, after a dispute over a planned leaflet drop. activists planned to send thousands of leaflets critical of pyongyang across the border by a balloon. as faust reports, thinks -- harry fawcett reports, things didn't go according to plan. >> the activists are here, they say the remains of the balloons on the truck, carrying leaflets, criticizing the north korean regime. this is blamed on left-wing groups and groups opposed to them. they are met in acrimonious style by the residents of the area, who saw a military response from an anti-balloon lunch. the bus was pelted with eggs, kicked and the police are about to intervene to keep the groups separate. from north korea's perspective, t

but also assad derives some benefit from it.nd doing what we think and the people, if it was required to stabilize and secure that part of the world. >> hagel also acknowledged that u.s. strikes are heing the assad regime kill some of his enemies. for for more on what's going on in syria, here's cnn's nic robertson. >> weeks of wall to wall air strikes on the border, some of it carried live from the relative safety of turkey. this drew international focus away from what is happening deeper inside the war torn nation. fragments do come into view neatingly. for months now, cnn, like many others, denied access by the syrian goth, unable for the most part to report independently on what's happening inside syria's borders. >> there is no question, the regime's advances in the city of aleppo threaten to cut off a city of well over 300,000 civilians. >> while aircraft bomb isis, rebels send word that planes and helicopters are picking off softer targets and report thousands of civilian deaths in ore parts of syria away from the border

diplomat like ryan crocker which says that as bad as assad is, the alternative to assad is worse, i don't think you feel like you have to prepare to abandon your critical regional ally. i think if you like the u.s. and the west is gradually a government getting itself to your position rather than vice versa. as ray said, i think if they thought they could preserve the interest in syria and oppose the assad abutment they would've cut him loose long time ago. they are not married to the individual. but the fact that they haven't done that despite all that's happened and tremendous reputation damage to iran and the broader sunni arab world means that i think they feel absent this, they could lose all of their interest in syria. >> never. i think they will never do that. i'll make it short. >> on that note i want to thank you all for the very excellent set of presentations on this complex country. please join me in thanking our panel. [applause] spent we'll take a break and be back here at 3 p.m. thank you. [inaudible conversations] >> this weekend on the c-span networks, friday night startin

assault on assad.we've been hearing from forces on the ground that the u.s. now plans to partner with against isis that their priority continues to be assad. obviously, something that makes a lot of sense given the number of people he's slain in syria. how do you turn a force like that towards a totally new priority? is that feasible in your experience dealing with these individuals? >> i think, you know, the reb s rebels, if we can even call them that, the free syrian army. this is a very sort of desperate group of people and it's been completely overshadowed by isis. the difficulty for coalition air strikes, you cannot win this war from from 30,000 feet. ultimately we need people on the ground we can rely on. the interesting thing about the turks, for example, hinting maybe they will get involved should the turkish air force or turkish army become involved in syria. that would be significant. >> that is the big news today. these propositions of more turkish involvement. what could have shifted their

and protecting bashar al-assad regime in syria. but they are playing a nasty role in the region, actually, iran is the main generator and instigator for instability in the region. there are elements in afghanistan not to allow stability in afghanistan, and supported in iraq, both shi'a and sunnies as well to kill each other, to not allow a soiled, stabilized strong iraq. this is their interest. now they're involved in many other places by supporting hezbollah, by supportin supporting-- islamic jihad. and today, they gain agimony in yemen, using the shi'a elements so anyhow, they're playing a very negative role in the region by undermining those regime who are looking for stability. >> rose: but they are opposed to isil. >> yes, they are opposed to isis, this is their immediate interest, because icist threatens the shi'a regime in iraq, and of course the certain bashar al-assad regime,. >> rose: but if it's necessary to stop isil or isis and it's not sufficient with the iraqi ground forces, should they use militias supported by iran

to intervene in syria against the assad regime. we are finally acting as isis, which is important to do, but why not assad. syria will not be solved unless assad is also toppled. >> we are not going to able to generate a policy. but turkey has a large kurdish minority population of its up. it has had to deal with kurdish terrorist groups for many years. and there is is a view in turkey of the destruction of another british enclave solves the problem, basically diminishes the kurdish threat. but here's how the administration will respond to this. >> this is what john kerry said, we're not going all in. we are going to degrade them and destroy them. and if we follow your strategy, we'll be dragged into gradual escalation and before you know it we'll have 10,000 troops on the ground. >> even at that level, it will be great to destroy them. the kurdish fighters in kobani are saying this is city fighting, we need heavy weaponenry to fight back. we don't have it, they do. similarly, we would not arm the pre-syrian army three years ago wh

one element is the assad regime. only a year ago accused of using chemical weapons against their own people on a mass scale. as chuck hagel, looking at the air power against isis and the complications with the syrian rebels. john. >> nick paton walsh for us. thank you. >>> new this morning, the former navy s.e.a.l. who wrote a book about the raid that killed osama bin laden is reportedly under criminal investigation for possibly disclosing classified material. in the book, "no easy day" he said he was one of the six members who shot osama bin laden. his attorney says the investigation is focused on revelations in the book, but others say the government is interested in information that he shared during paid speeches. a lot of the s.e.a.l.s say "zero dark 30" had access to a bunch of people and why can't they make money off it too. >>> it looks like it will be a good start for money today. asian stocks very, very strong this morning. japan's benchmark index up 5%. the bank of japan made the surprise announcement to ex

the assad regime for a last couple of years, they have had a lot of emphasis on that and that's wherethe big strategic goal is to try to push the u.s. in the direction of not just against isis but the assad regime and putting more resources into opposition forces that can fight the assad regime and if that happened you may see a turkish government more willing to use some sort of military assets and even intervene more directly in the conflict. >> one of the concerns right now has been this hmm freeway or pipeline of supply in terms of humans coming from, say, great britain or the west and wanting to join forces of isis, it seems a key way station is turkey, is turkey stopping that flow? >> well, that's a very hard question to answer. i mean, you g reports on that front. over the last couple of years that has been one of the main roots, in the turkish government says it has not only on the fighters but the financial aspect of it, it is a very open and porous border, smug king in roots between syria and turkey that have been around for centuries, it is not easy to just clamp down overn

then aim our objectives at isis and bashar al assad. he massacred 200,000 people. >> is secretary kerry on board for that, or not? >> you know, we keep hearing there's a great debate in the white house. i have heard that for so many years. it grows tiresome. they tell me they are working on it. it never gets done. i'm getting cynical. >> senator, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> isis is now successfully, yes, successfully use zing missiles to shoot down in iraq and syria. they shot down an iraqi helicopter from the sky. doug is at the pentagon with the latest. doug? >> reporter: they have confirmed isis fighters downed an iraqi helicopter yesterday 130 miles north of baghdad. despite of that, the country's largest oil refinery. isis released still photographs that show the shootdown. the missile used to strike it wauz soviet designed portable air defense system. it is widely known that isis fighters obtained many man pads when they took over a syrian air base last august. the latest version is vietnam era. the most advanced can shoot do

has been forgotten, as steffi decker reports assad's army is taking advantage of that. >> reporter:me has always controlled the air here. but as the eyes of the world and the u.s. led coalition fire power continue to focus on kobane, there has been a significant increase in air strikes on rebel positions by syrian president bashar al-assad's air force. >> he is busy, you know, and he has priorities to achieve military success and treat this as priority for him. first priority is damascus, second. [ inaudible ] then the road between damascus and that base. he is no now taking advantage in this time to intensify his military. >> reporter: since monday there have been at least 450 government air strikes across the country. many inside syria feel that no one is paying attention. and that the narrative is all about isil. we spoke an activist in the damascus countryside. >> translator: the world is ignoring regime actions and only concentrating on isil. we should mention an important point in kobane a few hundred people are besieged while in eastern country sides, 800,000 civilians under

it's about kurds being against assad or not.y wants kurds to be against assad, and then said they will support the kurds in kobane. but kurds refused it, so now turkey is raising its conditions against the kurds in the western countries. >> she was just giving us a little bit of background there. as you heard, turkey's reluctance to get involved in the conflict on its doorsteps has led to continuing clashes between police and pro-kurdish demonstrators, something she talked upon. in several turkish cities, protesters clashed with police and in istanbul, they threw rocks and molotov cocktails. police responded with tear gas and water cannons. more than 20 people are thought to have been killed in the violence and dozens of kurds have been arrested. >>> the threat of islamic state is dominating talks in europe. european union ministers are meeting in luxembourg to discuss how to stop young men who fought in syria from returning to launch terrorist attacks on home soil. it's estimated that around 3,000 european citizens have travele