assad kirkland, the author of "beating black kids," and murray straws, founder of the research plan at the university of ne new hampshire, also the author of "beating the devil out of them: corporal punishment in american families." before we begin let's take a look at some numbers that might surprise you. in 2012 a survey asked people if sometimes a child needs, quote a good hard spanking. 77% of men said yes. 65% of women said yes. that's a drop of more than 20% since the survey began in 1986. the survey also shows 82% of african-americans agreed that spanking is okay. the survey combines whites and hispanic together revealing 71% of demographic does not have a problem with spanking either. so professor strauss, are americans very different from other people in the rich industrialized world? are we bigger hitters of our children than the british, the french, the germans? >> in most of these countries people also think that spanking is also necessary, but the united states has a higher percentage. the exact same question has not been asked in other countries, but in my survey i did a