people like julian assange, these are guys that broke in -- assange hacked the dod and nasa when he wasw 45. we have 250,000 full time i.t. people working for the government or there abouts. my question is, you know, fool me once, twice, three, four, ten times. shame on you. fool me 35 years later, shame on me. why have we not protected everything? >> because it's almost impossible to do so, sean. the government relies on its ability to protect its documents solely on the employees that have access to these documents. and if they don't -- obviously there's problems within the system. they know the system has faults. sometimes people within the system, we saw it with edward snowden, we've seen it with others like chelsea manning. they're able to access these highly classified documents and get out of those classified documents. >> sean: would the country been better off had they found out for sure who did it? >> absolutely. >> sean: absolutely. you agree, craig? >> absolutely. i do. the inevitable conclusion that one can reach here is that comey knew it wasn't russia. >> sean: you think

people like julian assange and kim.com, these are guys that broken, assange hacked the dod and nasa whenhe is now 45. we have 250,000 full-time i.t. people working for the o government, my question is, fool me once, twice, three, four, five, ten times, shame on you. full me 35 years later, shame on me. why have we not protected everything? >> because it is almost impossible to do so, sean. the government relies on its ability to protect its documents solely on the employees that have access to these documents. obviously there is problems within the system. they know the system has fault. sometimes people within the system, we saw it with edwards noted, we see it with others like chelsea manning, they are able to access these very highly classified documents and somehow gett them out of these very classified environments. i think with julian assange -- >> sean: with the country be better off having found out for sure who did it? >> absolutely. >> sean: do you agree, gregg? >> i do. the inevitableus conclusion that one can reach here is that comey knew -- >> sean: it wasn't russia. >> it w

julian assange is a terrorist usually treated as an enemy combatant with you it should be closed down promoting indecisively disguise a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law of the united states the guy ought to be shot i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death penalty i want to do it illegally shoot the son of a wiki leaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service ignorance or misplaced idealism is no longer an acceptable excuse for lionizing these demons in these last six years a lot has happened the original swedish investigation into sexual assault allegations against a songe has come and gone international organizations such as the un have called his detention arbitrary and demanded his release concerns have been raised multiple times about his deteriorating health including in london courtrooms a son his legal team has made appeal after appeal for him to be guaranteed secure passage if he were to walk out of a quote dorian territory onto british soil but to no avail he's still wanted by british authorities

meeting in geneva arbitrary detention of julian assange we ask his lawyer jennifer robinson of australia will rescue its citizens as this week marks six years of his incarceration in the ecuadorian embassy in london and forty eight hours ahead of world refugee day two award winning scientist explain other mass movements of people exacerbated by nature wars has precipitated a global we ordering of all life on earth all the simple coming up in today's going underground but first england plays to an easier today in russia's volgograd arena in the english imagination june is here still conjures up images of horror when three years ago nearly to the day thirty eight people thirty of them british were killed in a resort in sousse. extraordinary footage of the attack as it took place you know their confusion and horror some cold and what was left unfolding in british media was the rise in terrorism arguably catalyzed by the british war on neighboring libya supported by u.k. prime minister theresa may but britain has other connections to the recent history of tunisia the north african nation onl

it's been six years since wiki leaks that it is julian assange and to the ecuadorian embassy in london and he hasn't left since and songs thought refuge there to avoid being extradited to sweden over sexual assault allegations and a case later dropped but he's still a wanted man in the u.s. on espionage charges artes and is to see a turk in the looks of the twists and turns of this ongoing saga. it's been a deadlocked case that stretched on and on today marks six years since the wiki leaks chief julian assange stepped foot into the ecuadorian embassy in london and has not left since that's over twenty one hundred days cooped up behind those walls the main reason his biggest fear us or tell you should for weiqi leaks exposing information that those running the show in washington would prefer to have kept under wraps. julian assange is a terrorist who should be treated as an enemy combatant with you it should be closed down permanently and decisively this guy is a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law the united states the guy ought to be shot i'm not for the death penalty so

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julian assange is a terrorist he should be treated as an enemy combatant with you and should be closed down promoting indecisively disguise a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law the united states the guy ought to be shot i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death penalty i want to do it illegally shoot the son of a wiki leaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service ignorance or misplaced idealism is no longer an acceptable excuse for a lionizing these demons in these last six years a lot has happened the original swedish investigation into sexual assault allegations against a songe has come and gone international organizations such as the un have called his detention arbitrary and demanded his release concerns have been raised multiple times about his deteriorating health including in london court rooms the son his legal team has made appeal after appeal for him to be guaranteed secure passage if he were to walk out of a quick dorian territory onto british soil but to no avail he's still wanted by british autho

she has called it julian assange a hero and said she fears for his safety.onigh tonight. >> how are you? >> tucker: good, thanks. how do you know him? >> i met him through vivian westwood. she is a great friend of mine and a supporter of his and she knew i would love his cause and thought it would be great if i met him. and we get along great. i see him a lot, i've known him for many years now. he has a great testament to the human spirit to be in the situation that he's in and to have the fight that he has in him, and and a sse of humor. he is really an incredible person. >> tucker: it so it raises the interesting quen, why has he received almost no support from the entertainmentorld in llooxample? >> while i think those are big supporters and people have misunderstood it, his intention was not to get trump elected, it was to give true information so people ceducad decisions aeople they wanted to vote for. so people want to blame somebody, so they blame him. yes. i get lots of flak for that too when i'm in hollywood. >> tucker: so the idea is if you suprtul

tucker: if you support assange you are against hillary clinton? >> in some cases. do you know vladimir putin? what do you make of the allegation that assigns and f are working together? >> everyone likes to blame russia when something goes wrong in america. i have spoken of the kremlin many times and last time i was there something was happening in the first thing they say is what have ys time? a common joke america likes to blame them for everything. he had no idea trump was going to win the election but it turned out the way it did. tucker: you are speaking get the kremlin, did you ask yourself how did i get here? >> i am and activists, i spoke about the environment and great economy, they invited me to the kremlin and touched a lot of people so i want to continue my work in russia and that was a coincidence. i am on the russian council, the international coalition animal welfare and pardon me? so it is a coincidence, crazy, wild, interesting people. tucker: i know you live in france. you have a home in malibu. you go back there and say i was just over at the kre

case other than julian assange has. exposed a great deal of secrets of the. modern establishment and has when he was in court in fact when i was acting for him he performed a service to journalists by getting a ruling that they could tweet from court which they'd never been allowed to previously you claim in the book that high up contacts in obama's white house have told you that he is wanted by the pentagon oh there's no doubt about that i mean there's doubt in downing street we never hear that from downing that we hear it from the white house i mean donald trump to give us a trump in two thousand and sixteen said i love the leaks when it was exposing the crookery in the democratic party but now his cia director is arresting this is a priority now sanjay jeff has an outsider's view of state and does jeff sessions he's attorney general it's a priority and we know they've got a grand jury is sitting. the charges add up to forty five b. is the same as the charges were brought against chelsea manning they're planning to a

panel is pushing for the release of wiki leaks founder julian assange he has been claiming asylum and london the ecuadorian embassy has twenty twelve well tomorrow marks six years of a songes confinement in london the wiki leaks founder arguably did so much to free the people of england's football opponents today to his ear is him self arbitrarily detained by the british government joining me now is a lawyer for julian assange and jennifer robinson of street chambers jennifer thanks for coming back on why is julian and why is he been arbitrarily detained six years to more this case isn't has. always been about the risk of extradition to the united states to face prosecution for his publishing activities with wiki leaks he walked into the embassy six years ago tomorrow to seek asylum on the basis that the u.k. and sweden refused to give assurances against extradition to the u.s. now that risk is only gotten worse we've seen since the trump of ministration come to power the former director of the cia now secretary of state compare say wiki leaks is a hostile non-state intelligence agenc

it has been six years since wiki leaks at a julian assange gen to the ecuadorian embassy in london and he hasn't left since the sonship sought refuge to avoid being extradited to sweden of a sexual assault allegations and a case later put on cones but he's still a wanted man in the u.s. on espionage charges he's an associate churkin a look at the twists and tons of this case. it's been a deadlocked case that stretched on and on today marks six years since the wiki leaks chief julian assange stepped foot into the ecuadorian embassy in london and has not left since that's over twenty one hundred days cooped up behind those walls the main reason his biggest fear us or tell you should for weiqi leaks exposing information that those running the show in washington would prefer to have kept under wraps. earlier song as a terrorist usually treated as an enemy combatant with uli should be closed down permanently and decisively this guy is a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law of the united states the guy ought to be shot i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death i d

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could theoretically if if somebody if god forbid julian assange and you or anybody actually conspired negotiated with somebody to obtain information became a part of the securing of this illegally then sure they can hide behind the first amendment but if they're just a media organization which i respectfully submit to innocent is they're protected one hundred percent and i couldn't agree more again it's like they're saying hey son does stuff who are not saying break the law we're not saying the right son to stop right now there are other lie as you know ben bradlee and the washington post the new york times and everybody else would be any plot in trouble for and they're exactly and there's also stuff called queen tom legislation tom lawsuits which are whistleblower lawsuit these are law firms that say if you can come to us and prove that the government wasted money you can win percentage of the money that you ultimately say when you're basically asking people bring us stuff that is sometimes and so and whistleblowers up on consumer were fair shows on t.v. if you know a problem send us

it looks increasingly like julian assange just threatening to stay his welcome at the ecuadorian embassy which means the direction of this lengthy saga will head next it's probably more uncertain now than ever and it's going to r.t. one. u.s. president donald trump has announced plans to establish a six branch of the armed forces dedicated to the protection of american interests in space he claims the current us presence in space is insufficient is r.t. correspondent. the usa already has the army the navy the coast guard the marine corps and there's the u.s. air force but donald trump says that there's one potential conflict zone that's been too long neglected very importantly i'm here by directing the department of defense and pentagon to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces that's a big statement a new division of the u.s. military dedicated to waging extraterrestrial battles and when it comes to finding a name for it hollywood is full of inspiration. now the youth of tomorrow must travel across the stars to defend. because. let's see if we can get some new i

the alexander nix part of that, kret of cambridge analytica reaching out to julian assange and saying can we help you with this, that's confirmed. that is a thing we know. that is an established fact. so you're saying if this were to bear out it would make some sense of that aspect of it. so that's one part of this, right? we keep looking for the sort of nexus, roger stone, cambridge analytica, wikileaks. there's also been a crazy eric prince-related side plot to this. and i'm curious about this piece of news today which just, again, keeps showing how wide a net and how many documents and things mueller has access to. prince says the special counsel has obtained his phones and computers, that he's cooperated and handed over all sorts of files and information to mueller's team. >> yeah, but i think there are things they're looking at are really kind of what he said to the house committee and the other evidence that proves he was lying. >> which is almost an open and shut case just in terms of what is known publicly. >> right. this is a guy who claims he was in the seychelles and just h

i think assange is a journalist. he does what the washington post does, what the new york times does. he gets information, sometimes classified and he publishes it. it is interesting to note that wikileaks has never been questioned in terms of the authenticity or accuracy of what they have published. very few american newspapers or media organizations can say that. i reject the idea that he is a russian asset or that wikileaks is a russian front. at this juncture although i once believed that the dnc and then, today i don't think they were hacked at all. as you may know i'm being sued along with others in the trump campaign by the democratic national committee which is terrific because we will get a chance to examine those servers and establish once and for all whether the dnc was ever hacked by anyone or whether the information was downloaded to some kind of portable drive and taken out a backdoor which a number of it experts s now believe based on an article i read. >> you've written how many books, roger stone? >>

i think julian assange is a journalist. he does what "the washington post" does, what "the new york times" does. gets information sometimes classified and he publishes it. it is interesting to noted that wikileaks during the entire time of its existence has never been questioned in terms of the authenticity or accuracy of what they have published. very few american newspapers or media organizations can say that. so i reject the idea that he is a russian asset or that wikileaks is a russian front. at this junctu although i once believed that the dnc had been hacked, today i don't think they were hacked at all. as you may know, i'm being sued along with others including the trump campaign by the democratic national committee, which is terrific because we'll get a chance to look and examine those servers and establish once and for all whether the dnc was ever hacked by anyone or whether the information was downloaded to some kind of portable drive and taken out the backdoor, which a number of i.t. counter terrorism experts now

assange as a russian accent. mom -- assets. and then his existence has never been question with the accuracy orth authenticity very few american newspaper so i reject the idea that wikileaks is a russian front by i once believed the dnc was hacked now i don't think they were hacked at all. from the campaign by the dnc. but then to establish once and for all by the servers the dnc was ever hacked by anyone then the information that has been downloaded with a number of it counterterrorism experts. >> how many books have you written roger stone? >> this is my fifth book. i am mad new times best-selling author but this is somewhatbos different than te others. you don't have to be a liberal trumpservative or supporter to enjoy thiss book. even people who are not in politics that try to get ahead in business or media or fashion no matter. >> st. louis missouri independent line with roger stone be 14 that morning be 14 fox news is fake news. not edward armor all or walter cronkite to? something and using that to bring down a real amer

out from kim dot com over there new zealand i would like to invite top security experts like julian assange snowden and members of the c.c.c. that's a chaos computer club to join together in creating a secure social media platform that will replace the deep state conspirators facebook and twitter after years of betrayal it's time for something better or wow all right so facebook in other words there was a restriction about who could just access their data right and they were they were giving it to everybody no matter what like the you know one of those find out about this of the gas station there's like a would wall with holes in it and guys just go up there and they say they're violated anonymously through this blank wall and there's just holes in there there's all kinds of you know shenanigans going on and under-aged minions and so there's facebook there's mark zuckerberg he's the guy in the gas station on the other side of that hole in the wall just anything that comes through that wall he goes and he goes for it he goes for anything that comes in there is totally nondiscriminatory big s

has also been reported that other employees at cambridge analytica had direct connections to julian assange including through his former attorn. in 2016, alexander nix also provided white papers and briefings to executives from russia's second largest oil firm about cambridge analytica's political activities in the united states. the oil company is currently under united states sanctions related to the russian activities in the ukraine. in march 2017, they revealed its former information sharing partnership with the russian federal security service, the successor to the kgb. finally, we still do not know whether the data obtained by cambridge analytica was ever shared with or obtained by a third-party. the data was originally obtained through a facebook application developed by a russian born professor named alexander cogan. professor cogan maintains a teaching position at st. petersburg university in russia, state-funded university ck and forth to russia. tly these are concerning questions. not only for the united states, but for all democracies around the world. based on what we have alre

don't talk so much about being detained in the airports over the book will be honest about julian assange and the ecuadorian embassy do you believe you and others are being targeted for your allegiance to a sitting u.s. president while i think all the trump supporters. have a big red target painted a bull's eye on their back so the we don't carry great favor either with the media or with the deep state yeah i think many people would agree with you when you're when you talk about the media getting a drum support is.

nt "the guardian" reporting today that a senior executive at cambridge analytica met with julian assange from wikileaks, which is the entity that distributed the documents that russia had stolen. she met with him in february of last year at the embassy in london where he's hed up, trying to fight extradition, and the guardian reports that in addition to that meeting, she' total numerous people that she also surreptitiously arranged payments to wikileaks. she arrangedoc payments to wikileaks in addition to this newly reported meeting at which she says they so, again, i to just sort of, you know, see the trees instead of the forest here, right? it's easy to follow each littl detail, new report that's from each day. but step back for a second. russian intelligence steals decratic documents, gives them to wikileaks to distribute in ways that will inflict the most damage on hillary clinton's campaign. the data fm working for the trump campaign offers to help with that work, and then holds at least one in-person meeting with wikileaks and then secretly funnels them money. what is the definitio

probably do as you probably do anyway speaking of separation this week marks the sixty year that julian assange has been separated from the outside world every original charge against him has been dropped yet the u.s. still wants him extradited because he had the nerve to reveal the true face of the american empire trump is also revealing the true face of our empire but he's doing it accidentally so. the big difference is you know it's like the difference between a magician who tells you how the trick is done and a magician who just sucks so bad that you figure out how the trick is done. to trump just tries to make the rabbit disappear and you spot a running down his pants. it's right there though. it's ok. that's what trump is doing but for corruption here you know he's where we're all like you're privatizing the schools and selling all financial resources i can see it it's right there. continuing on our theme of separation the us got a trial separation from the u.n. human rights council this week. and as horrible as that may sound let's be honest they were never really right for each other yo

out from kim dot com over their new zealand i would like to invite top security experts like julian assange snowden and members of the c.c.c. that's a chaos computer club to join together in creating a secure social media platform that will replace the deep state conspirators facebook and twitter after years of betrayal it's time for something better or wow all right so facebook in other words there was a restriction about who could just access their data right so they were they were giving it to everybody no matter what like the you know one of those find out about this of the gas station there's like a would wall with holes in it and guys just go up there and they say they're violated anonymously through this blank wall and there's just holes in there there's all kinds of you know shenanigans going on and under-aged minions and so there's facebook there's mark zuckerberg he's the guy in the gas station on the other side of that hole in the wall just anything that comes through the wall he goes he goes for it he goes for anything that comes in there is totally nondiscriminatory big small c

military intelligence roger stone gerrard paul metaphor donald trump jr george papadopoulos julian assange and wiki leaks five left anyone else out please forgive me so big list it was those last two names i mentioned wiki leaks and julian a sun which raised eyebrows among journalists of first amendment advocates who who care more about printing the troops than burning access bridges are catering to partisan politics this group includes the committee to protect journalists or c p j which raises some interesting questions regarding the potential dangers the d.n.c. has case presents for the freedom of the press and the first amendment in a recent article by obvious or shapiro shapiro points out the case raises a number of important press freedom questions where should courts draw the line between source building in conspiring what activities could complicate a journalist and a source is illegal behavior would putting a secure drop link soliciting leaks count as illegal conspiracy and the former reporter asked for documents on an individual while indicating that they think the person deserves

out from kim dot com over there new zealand i would like to invite top security experts like julian assange snowden and members of the c.c.c. that's a chaos computer club to join together in creating a secure social media platform that will replace the deep state conspirators facebook and twitter after years of betrayal it's time for something better or wow all right so facebook in other words there was a restriction about who could just access their data right and they were they were giving it to everybody no matter what like the you know one of those find out about this of the gas station there's like a would wall with holes in it and guys just go up there and they say they're violated anonymously through this blank wall and there's just holes in there there's all kinds of you know shenanigans going on and under-aged minions and so there's facebook there's mark zuckerberg he's the guy in the gas station on the other side of that hole in the wall just anything that comes through that wall he goes and he goes for it he goes for anything that comes in there totally nondiscriminatory big smal

know you do want to talk so much about being detained in the airports over the book about julian assange and the ecuadorian embassy do you believe you and others are being targeted for your allegiance to a sitting u.s. president well i think all the trump supporters. have a big red target painted on their back so the we don't carry great favor either with the media or with the deep state yeah i think many people would agree with you when you're when you talk about the media getting support is good liberals hate jump. who else who will says well there are never trampers as well in the republican party who have not gone away as well as some of the what i called them the geo e the grand old establishment and they're still i mean this about what's going on i think trump has taken over the american political scene surely as president he's running the republican party but he has enemies and there are midterm elections coming up and there are people who are always trying to sabotage what he's doing so he has an uphill push and he still succeeding well i want to get on to some of that success in

well if you hope your health minister says at least one person has been killed in a grenade assange jaring the new prime minister's first mass rally in the capital addis ababa be ahmed has announced a series of major reforms since taking office in april victoria gate and reports. this was the moment the grenade exploded close to where prime minister abby asked why it was sitting. for a few moments there was confusion before members of the security forces came onto the stage and led abby atma to safety. witnesses say they saw the man who targeted the prime minister as a prime minister were just concluded his speech and that moment there was a grenade. but i think the guy was just trying to stroll the stage. beside him just took him. just went off and on sunday it was a bloody end to a day that is started with say much optimism hundreds of thousands of ethiopians had gathered in the capital addis ababa mescal square to support their new prime minister since taking office in april the forty two year old has announced a series of reforms including the release of tens of thousands of prisoners

few minutes pamela anderson joins us with her visit to the kremlin and her relationship with julian assangeyou probably heard that milania a kidn operation, that happens to 48-year-olds, even famous ones, pretty typical for someone who just got out of the hospital. they are not buyg that story, they are proud journalists and

assanges -- julian hated hillary clinton. be made that clear on his own blog. they knew they could not get it through to the larger news media themselves so they leaked all this material to wiki leaks. theleaks prompted up to news media and successfully broke the democratic party other convention, and writers of the day of the election started pumping out information, some of which was patently false. all of which was stolen from innocent american citizens to the point where mike pompeo designated wiki leaks a nonstate intelligence agency, which means actor. which means the u.s. government can take action against it, just as they would against the fsb. host: what does all that prove? guest: russia carried out exactly what the cia reported. that the russian intelligence agencies at the direction of vladimir putin carried out a deep, broad, multiyear intelligence operation against the united states in order to damage our political process and candidate for one that helps them achieve their goals. host: will go to raymond in southfield, michigan, democrat. -- mana

that's evidence that sean hannity did have prior contact with julian assange. and there was the issue he was involved with keith davidson and michael choohen. he had hired michael cohen to be there. stormy daniels current attorney yesterday. hannity's attacks are not all in an effort to defend the president. he also faces exposure in a way that perhaps he's trying to p - pre-empt now. >> i want to read more of his version of events. he would say he's kidding and repeat the advice. my advice, not really kidding. the washington post says he raise it again in a serious discu discussion. like so many of these players complexly interrelated been announced as a criminal defense attorney for donald trump. let me put it like this. that show, with all due respect, is not known for its comedy. >> it's always similar to what i used to see when i prosecuted organized crime figures. they would come on hard and tell people to destroy the evidence, get rid of the evidence and say i'm just kidding. it was kind of like a wink and a nod but what they want you to do is to destroy

if you have roger stone and answer whether he was communicating with julian assange and wikileaks throughout the campaign, perhaps you have a clue as to whether or not there was an intermediary who was feeding wikileaks this stolen information that the russians stole from the dnc and yawn podesta and gave to the campaign. >> michael, do you anticipate, a trial of manafort unless something changes. >> this silver. >> you've been reporting this for a while now. learning new things in that trial. it's going to be quite a spectacle i imagine. >> sure. look, it is quite common for prosecutors to hold some of their best stuff back. and one can expect if this trial does come in july when it's scheduled for, that we're going to be learning a whole lot more about just how much they know about manafort and these ties. but also, you know, there is so much that could we'll be coming to a head this summer. the wide expectation here is that mueller is likely to do something in the next couple of months. he can't wait until after labor day. he can't do something during the election. lest he be criticizes f

he has gone over to visit jewuln assange, of course, the chairman of wikileaks which distributed all allegedly hacked by russia. he's got his fingers in a lot of these pots and testing whether the 30 years he spent in congress, the voters want to send him back, whether they want somebody who demographically matches the district now that's it's changing and whether russia will van impact on lts electith. >> there are peculiarities, with the system, with referenda. given that, what this might tell you about other elections more generally, how does what happens in california different? >> california has this top two primary, also referred to as the jungle primary. every regardless of party runs on one ballot. whomever is in the top two positions at the end will face each other in november. that could mean a democrat and a republican. it could mean two republicans. it could mean two democrats. you just never know. the idea was when, at its inception, this plan was to get more moderates to win. some of these elections. california's political leaders felt the democratic primaries were pull

reamed out for my theatrics earlier in the week, let's say an hour and a half about roger stone and assangehis. another two, two and a half hours, it had nothing to do with the campaign. i don't know what they're looking into. perhaps mueller just sent this out because they found enough on michael that they view there could be a potential case. i don't know. >> but his movement of the matter to the southern district gives him legitimacy because he didn't keep a case even if it would have been allowed within his purview. >> that's what i'm saying. >> if you read the mandate from tein, he looks for crimes and activities tha collusion and that grow out of that look. that's how we got monica lewinsky. he could do things. we don't see them. there's connective tissue with russia with the manafort allegations, how they connect to any collusion argument, we don't know if at all. back to cohen. so why are trump folk worried that he might flip? >> well, i mean, they're putting a lot of pressure on him. first of all, look, michael is, to me, a tragic figure. you know, i was attacked by the president.

assange was born in seattle washington and as a first-generation american his family history is both fascinating and obstructive as to why he has the experience and understanding to serve as u.s. ambassador to the eu. his parents were born in berlin, germany, and were married in 1937. they were forced to escape the nazi regime in germany. his mother was able to escape because her father was russian and those with russian passports could leave. she ended up or mr. sondland sister was born. his father was not so fortunate, and he had to be smuggled out of germany. he wound up in france where he joined the french foreign legion and thought in north africa picky was put in a concentration camp in africa where he was rescued by the british army. he joined the british army being fluent at german, assist with decoding german ciphers. after eight years mr. assad lynn's parents were reunited, moved to seattle in 1953 where gordon was born four years later. gordon went on to graduate from university of washington and seattle and began his business career in commercial real estate before managi

we also talked about a visit she paid to julian assange.s she's an unreliable witness, claims that the quizes never got beyond the testing phase and there was nothing nefarious about them. he also said processes were in place to ensure that political data was not used for commercial purposes. >> she's raising interesting things. why is she talking now, do you think? >> she said she wants to make sure that this data collection, when regulations are put into place, that they capture everything that was going on that might be problematic. that's a word she used a lot. she gave us part of the picture. she knows other things. she's talking to investigators. so, we'll know the full picture at some point later when all of that comes out. >> good story. thank you, john. >> thank you, john. >>> coming up next, a look at this morning's other headlines, including new trouble for the woman recorded complaining about a girl selling water. >> announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by coolsculpting. find out more on coolsculpting.com. not

might say that maybe now in this new frontier of media maybe that doesn't apply maybe maybe julian assange and others were more active maybe they were different it's a factual basis so the d.n.c. could theoretically if if somebody if god forbid julian assange and your anybody actually conspired negotiated with somebody to obtain information became a part of the securing of this illegally then sure they can hide behind the first amendment but if they're just a media organization which i respectfully submit doing this on is they're protected one hundred percent and i couldn't agree more again it's like they're saying hey stuff bored out of saying break the law we're not saying that right under stuff right now where other law is you know ben bradlee and the washington post the new york times and everybody else would be any plot in trouble for and there exactly and there's also stuff called queen tom legislation tom lawsuits which are whistleblower lawsuit these are law firms that say if you can come to us and prove that the government wasted money you can win percentage of the money that you

we know what kind of person julian assange is. there needed to be more skepticism. why are they putting it out there? it seems to be coordinated, synchronized in particular ways. that is one of the greatest failures in the american press in not how this was being used. >> clinton cash got a full birth in main street media. at the same time neither the fbi nor the media brought out the fbi investigation that was happening against the trump campaign for something pretty serious which was potential collusion. >> we get into this in the book i wrote. the ky thiey thing is the fbi i supposed to talk about investigations so it's hard to blame comey for not talking about it. there was a lot of media reporting. "the new york times" got a pulitzer but they fell on their face in not talking about the fbi investigation it knew about. and of course to jason's point, when the podesta e-mails are coming out over the course of weeks and weeks and weeks, the story is it about the little political gossip. i'm not saying they shouldn't be reported, but the bigger picture that there's