designating someone for assasination, any citizen of the united states, by the way, al-awlaki. do you think that's okay? >> no, i don't think it's okay. he is an american citizen, like you say. it's very bizarre that they would target somebody -- >> the aclu mounted a case against this, even though it's distasteful for them to do. >> maggie thatcher had the i.r.a. folks assassinated and the israelis assassinated the guys involved in the munich master. >> by order? >> oh, sure. but yemen is one of the most tribe alizeed societies in the world, 25 million, the population will double in 40 years, break in half, south and north. they have rebels in the north who are shiites as opposed on sunni. the problem with americans, do you go in and do we kill the guys and reduce al qaeda? or do we do collateral damage and create more al qaeda than we kill. >> there's an answer to that. the more we resist, the more the recruitment goes on. >> if you do collateral damage, the tribes will say we'll pay those s obs back. >> the uss cole bombers when clinton was president came out of yemen. it's