the opportunity on friday to expound on certain lab questions in the ramstein and also meet we've already met in the past during the a parliamentary assembly of the northern northern atlantic that alliance. but we also had the possibility to meet and get to know each other. we have a full agenda regarding the eastern flank, for example, the a mutual defense and our eastern ukraine as well. so a lot of items on our agenda, and i am now meeting you as the for federal defense minister in 1511 months ago putin. what time triggered his unprovoked, brutal ina war of aggression against ukraine. lighter. and one point is, i absolutely clear both for you dear. yes. as for us, well done, nato should not become a party to this war. but at the same time, we do see that the effect as ukraine are, as a country being attacked, we have a commitment, we want to do everything in our might to help him, but also to clearly send to russia a signal of see terminator switching hope of us, you, germany, lena angle is high up in the rank when it comes to helping ukraine, hulu. and so currently we have a debate regarding a delivery of tanks and her employment of ta