intelligence policy is the use of predator drones to attack targets in pakistan in particular in was your astana or the pakistani army and frontier corps basically withdrawn, what do you think about the wisdom of the use of those drones to kill al qaeda and taliban targets in those areas? ..

bill astana is massive, twice the size of germany. about half the size of pakistan with mi5 million people so you imagine it was described as being by the u.s. geological survey in the 1970's as the closest thing to the moon. >> host: where alexander the great almost perished it's so sparse. >> guest: the water table is 100 feet below the ground. so the problems are also each province has its own set of problems and baluchistan there is a long simmering ethnic and this is where all of these hopper is to come from india and 47 they settled in the cities of karachi and in the what and took over the dominance of there has been simoni revolutions and all of these provinces have their own set a few will of ethnic dimensions, ethnic dynamics and the northwest frontier province which we will get into in the next was perhaps the most fascinating of all. >> host: certainly is, the wonderful world of modeling the taliban but the cultures of the days of alexander the great and i'm looking forward to talking about that. if you had to summarize pa

anthropologist and did eight -- in the himalayas or the western end of it in a place called soviet tadzhik astana and when i was doing my field work in the mountains, i studied in particular wedding rituals and i used guinn to these large alienating weddings and not have the foggiest idea what was going on and everybody was speaking a strange language and people would be running around in this great tried and would be clear that these rituals played a key role in assembling the tried and perpetuating the ideology that bound them together. but trying to unpick the language work out what was coming on was a huge challenge. but there is something about me as an ex anthropologist that may be very intriguing by the tried at the securitizations forum and on the basis i thought if i could learn this i could learn the language of ceos i sat about trying to impeach what was the one on. so as i sat in the hall i did what most journalists often do when they haven't got the foggiest idea what is happening. and i flipped through the brochure materials and started reading the biographies of the people from the