joining me now is anne gearan, white house correspondent for "the washington post" and astead herndon, national political reporter for "the new york times." astead, your goal when we saw what happened in charlottesville, and the killing of heather heyer by a alleged -- allegedly white supremist who was there defending the statue of confederate generals and the counterprotesters saying we have no place in that in society, the president of the united states came out and said what many of us including me felt was establishing a moral equivalence between the neo-nazis, confederate sympathizers and the anti-confederate protesters. yesterday, last night, he said, i'm against all racism, i'm against all violence. still not really condemning white supremacy in its own form, which was what this is and was about a year ago. how do you assess what the president has said now, has he made any progress in a year, and in light of all that he's done in a year, does it really mean anything that he says anything at this point? >> this is a unique situation with this president because you often have the