but these people, denied their religion, grasped onto just any idea that was around - astrology, whatever, anything, spoon vendors, anything - they just clung to anything they could get their minds on, because they were denied their regular traditional religions, it was outlawed. >> and that's the tension that we're going to face, when we finish up these last graphics, because is it too easy to sit in the easy chair of one set of standard answers to life's profound questions, and not experience, not do it, until unfortunately, maybe it's a rite of passage or something tragic happens. and the worst thing is when a person wants to rely on their religion for solace and sustenance and they go and they open the book and it's empty, because they've brought nothing to the party - it hasn't made sense to them. and that's a very sad thing, but it's also a very real thing. let me just do our one last roll-in so we'll have plenty of time to wrap it up. on the same line, paul munshank is my colleague at wiu, and has built a career around personal transformation, the religious quest, and somehow gotte