inauguration, talked about how much he hates the press and, for one career official who worked at the ciafor over a decade, a man named ned price, that presidential bragging in that particular spot hit a nerve. ned price says his mentor at the cia was killed in the line of duty and is one of the people memorialized with a star on that wall. ned price said he thought he would spend his entire career working for the cia but after his years of service, including rising to the spokesman for the national security council, after living through just one month of this n presidency ned price decided he would not be a career cia offial becau he had to quit. he's wrien about in the the "washington post," he says "white house advisers, not career professionals, reportedly now have final say over what intelligence reaches the president's desk. as intelligence professionals, we're taught to tune out politics but this administration has flipped that dynamic on its head. the politicians are the ones tuning out the intelligence professionals. despite working proudly for republican and democratic president

even asking at one point if we were living in nazi germany. former cia director and defense secretary leon panetta told this to "the new york times." i have never been so nervous in my lifetime about what may, may not happen in washington. i don't know whether this white house is capable of responding in a thoughtful or careful way should a crisis erupt. i spoke to leon panetta started asking him whether anything had changed since he delivered that quote. and whether he had any benchmarks for the president's first month in office. i am relieved they appointed general mcmaster as the new national security adviser. he is -- he is a tough soldier. a good soldier. more importantly, he is -- he really has written about what he called dereliction of duty. and the need for -- for the military to stand up to civilian authority if they're wrong. he's the right person. i am feeling a lot more confident about his ability to pull together the national security team. with regards to the first month. it has been a wild ride. and you know, i think i remember saying at

op-ed in the washington post outlining the major reasons why you decided to resign, quit from the cia at this point. and after reading your article, i asked phil mudd, former cia counter terrorism official, cnn analyst, about your dough significance to resign so early in the administration. i want you to listen, ned, to what he said. >> let's see where the rubber meets the road here. we have a secretary of defense, a secretary of state and a vice-president who have said things on russia, for example, that reflect the intelligence and differ from what the president has said. you can quit if you want, but 28 or 30 days into a presidency, you can't say it's because you think intelligence is politicized. i don't buy it. >> all right. i want you to respond to that why you decided not to wait, and why not, for example, give mike pompeo, the new cia director a chance. >> wolf, it's a fair question and it's uniquely personal decision, one that i made and one that perhaps others at the cia are considering at the moment. i think, wolf, you know, i had two options at my disposal. i could have gone

it reminded me a little bit of when he was at cia headquarters and started talking about the electionsresults. he went into other issues, is it appropriate at an event like that to start talking about partisan politics? >> it's really uncomfortable whether you are an intelligence or military officer. it was uncomfortable for my friends at the agency. i suspect the same response you would find at centcom today. the reason is simple. you vote when you leave the office. when you are in the office you elect a democrat, socialist, communist, republican. we don't care. we're paid to serve whomever the american people elect because we are not the elected officials. whether at the agency or in the military. when he makes comments like that it suggests to the people in the audience -- this is why they score him -- somehow he believes when they're on the job they're partisan. it's trained in your dna not to. whoever is elected we support him. it's an uncomfortable moment for anybody in the business. >> dana, at the same event he also spoke about what he called the very dishonest media. once agai

there's so much confusion in what our foreign policy is going to be and folks like phil who are at the ciahe cia having to analyze all this intelligence and wondering how they're going to use it, just imagine what our confusion is if i'm in the intelligence business right now. i'm very confused. >> right. and this comes just after yesterday, sean spicer was asked directly about ukraine and russia and their engagement there. and he said, you know, the president is aware of this. and that was the end of it. he had an opportunity in the press briefing room to give a strong statement like nikki haley did today at the united nations and he didn't. so, that's exactly the kind of mixed signals we're talking about here. >> he may not have wanted to get ahead of her either. she's kind of new. this might have been her first thing. >> that's right. >> the benefit of the doubt on that, but your point is well taken. >> we never hear the president of the united states say anything even closely similar to what the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. said. you never hear president trump or candidate trump say any

at cia, i have not gotten to know mike pompeo very well in the last month. charlie: you have?ichael: i have. i only knew him before from our relationship when i was the deputy acting director and he was on the house intelligence committee. those were not great interactions because they were over benghazi. right. i saw him in that light. i saw him is very partisan, i saw him as political, i saw him as attacking the agency in me. but, he reached out to me after he was nominated and we had a number of very good conversations. charlie: what did you tell him about the cia? michael: the first thing i told him is that the men and women of the cia are the most dedicated and committed people he will ever run into. and that they will follow him anywhere. and that they care about one thing and one thing only and that is keeping the country safe and he was being handed a national treasure. i told him that his ultimate responsibility is when he walks out the door, whatever it is, to leave it as a national treasure. then, we had long talks about the senior officers there might make a good b

you used to work at the cia, detailed at the fbi. this is what the president tweeted today. the fbi is totally unable to stop the national security leakers that have permeated our government for a long time. they can't even find the leakers within the fbi itself. classified information is being given to media that could have a devastating effect on u.s. find now. he's blaming the fbi for this investigation. and in the process he seems to be confirming cnn's exclusive reporting. >> he is confirming the reporting and he's doing something more remarkable, wolf. in the midst of his comments, tweets about the fbi, how many people including the tweeter in chief from the oval office are talking about what happened several months ago, that was russian involvement in usa election. we have a bait and switch here. the media brought us coverage of wars and now coverage of russian involvement in american elections and what does the president do? he den gates one of the most respectable institutions, the fbi. number one, i better be darn careful anytime i touch a politician because they'r

karen blackett started her career in 1993 at cia media network. the media business group and was promoted to the board of directors in 1999 when the group merged with mediacom. after climbing the ranks, karen was promoted to chairwoman of the company in 2016. the firm now employs more than 1,000 people in the uk. karen isjust a karen is just a little karen isjust a little bit older than me, so i feel a little bit inadequate listening to that. when we realised you were coming in, i said we would be talking to you about advertising, diversity and apprenticeships. you have knowledge ona apprenticeships. you have knowledge on a huge agreement of subjects. what is the most important?” on a huge agreement of subjects. what is the most important? i love my industry and i love what i do, so advertising is top of the tree, but pa rt advertising is top of the tree, but part of being good at advertising is about having an inclusive workforces, and inclusive content that you create, so diversity and inclusion goes hand in hand with that. it is the buzzword in

that in my opinion for the white house to be seeking help from the intelligence leadership either at cia, fbi, or elsewhere, to knock down stories it does not like is completely inappropriate and threatens those agencies. if indeed conversations were had with officials about whether or not accusations were accurate, that is not appropriate. if the cia director was tasked to call reporters on background and not down stories, -- and knock down stories, that is even more inappropriate and threatens the independence of that agency and any investigation that agency may be undertaking in terms of counter intelligence. in my view, the predominant challenges we will have in conducting a credible investigation are we have to make sure it remains bipartisan. it will lead little value if not. and we will need the cooperation of the fbi. we will need the fbi to share with us what they have found. what leads have not chased down. an investigation them done and not done. so we can evaluate whether they have done a comprehensive job. this is not unlike with the joint congressional inquiry did after 9/1

were you chief of staff at the cia, were you chief of staff at the pentagon. what do you think the cia and the pentagon would have changed about this order if had gone through a normal procedure? obviously at the pentagon you would have carved out iraqi interpreters who were on the battle field with american soldiers. what else would you have changed? >> i actually think the entire thing would be different was it would be informed by intelligence. one of things the court said tonight is the administration came forward with he precisely zero evidence that there is any credible threat that the administration has described. and when this goes back down to the district court, the administration is going to have to come forward with intelligence, information, maybe secret information reviewed by the judge. and i think if this had gone through the normal process, the intelligence community would have provided input into the process. you might have different countries, you might not have had a total ban, you might have had vetting procedures changed. the whole thing w

contradicting what we heard from president trump the day after inauguration at cia headquarters. where he said that we may have a chance in the future to seize iraqi oil. secretary mattis directly contradicted that before he arrived in baghdad. >> all of us in america generally paid for our gas and oil all along and i'm sure we will continue to do so in the future. we're not in iraq to seize anybody's oil. >> reporter: of course, this comes as something as a reassurance to the iraqis who are also upset by the fact that iraq was included in the list of seven countries in the executive order on the travel ban. boris. >> ben wedeman live in istanbul. thank you. >>> the u.s. is making its presence felt in the waters of the south china sea. they deployed an aircraft carrier as part of routine maritime operations. this comes among the tension with the u.s. and china over territory and trade. china warning the trump administration against challenging its sovereignty after learning about this deployment. >>> this bizarre case started last week. the death of the half brother of north kore

fox news, look at somebody like former cia director john brennanrmer director of intelligence james clapper. the names have been brought up. >> clearly, the coverage of mike flynn occurred when they were in power. it occurred in december. so they would have had access as well. when i say i was referring to the agency, career staff agency officers. of course brennan came back in as an appointee. at the pinnacle of the agency they would have been involved in the political process. clearly this was a crime motivated by political intent, to bring down mike flynn. it wasn't for money. and these are going to be people that were likely loyal to president obama, and other people that had been named, people like former deputy national security advisor ben rhodes was stated in the free washington beacon that he had created an infrastructure to push media out against flynn in washington as soon as he left. that was another story covered. once they begin this thing and they begin investigating and walking this back, i think that it is possible that these indiv

at cia ceremony and national prayer service.oes it, it's startling but in reality tv world it's don't be boring for an hour. throw something in so guys like us are talking about it. as for pelosi, democrats have to start building bench quickly. 2018 isn't as far away as we think and going to have to have somebody that beats donald trump. what trump is doing cleverly is meeting today with the united steelworkers union, trying to steel the democratic party base, the unions, from the democrats. if he can pull that off, don't have somebody from the heartland to step up to the plate and it's only hard anti-trump voices. it could be like nixon winning in '72 against george mcgovern. can't just be the far left right now. got to find moderate democrats willing to start going after trump. >> can he keep up being a disrupter at this pace the next four years? >> i don't know. we can't predict. but i think he wants to own every single media day and make sure he has tweet or outrageous sound bite to make people laugh or shake their heads. he

lost at the cia. - that speech was a home run. that speech, if you look at fox, okay, i'll mention you--read-- see what fox said. they said it was one of the great speeches. there was love in the room. you and other networks covered it very inaccurately. i hate to say this to you, and you probably won't put it on, but turn on fox and see how it was covered. - i love how he says "foxxxx." but you see that there? yeah, if the news is critical of donald trump, it's fake news. only praise is real news. so here we are one week into trump's presidency, and the realization is beginning to dawn. the difference between candidate trump and president trump is that now we have to live in his crazy reality, and that fact hit me when trump said this. - david, david, i mean, i know you're a sophisticated guy. the world is a mess. the world is as angry as it gets. what, you think this gonna cause a little more anger? the world is an angry place. - jesus, dude, if he's gonna talk like that i feel like he needs a different style of makeup. - david,

that's why select committees are formed to look at cia and fbi and military all in one setting. mcconnell and paul ryan said let's do it in the intelligence committee. what does it mean, it is not done in public. i think there's was an effort to try to tant this down, look the other way and that's what is a problem here. i don't know what the all the fact are at there point and i want the truth to come out, but for these republicans who spent days and days and millions and millions of dollars over repeated -- >> publicized. >> that's why i think it's important that we apply the same standard people in america are sick of this rabbit partisan ship. that's do this above board, by the book, and have the investigation that can ensure -- i think the administration should govern this -- >> i love the purple state like missouri. lieutenant general michael flynn is the outspoken critic of hillary clinton. he called her reckless and -- he led the cheers. >> we do not need a reckless president who believes she is above the law. look her up. that's right. look her up. i have called on hill

. >> reporter: president trump raised eyebrows at cia headquarters when he said this about iraq's oil. >> we should have kept the oil, but okay, maybe i will have another chance. but the fact is, we should have kept the oil. >> reporter: ahead of next week's deadline from the pentagon to defeat isis, signs that rule ares of engagement are already changing. american troops are closer to the front lines. >> it is true that we are operating closer and deeper into the iraqi formations. we adjusted our posture in p the east mosul fight and we embedded advisors a bit further down into the formation. >> reporter: currently there are roughly 6000 u.s. troops in iraq and syria. additional american force and apache gun ships could be headed there soon. shannon. >> shannon: there is a lot of activity involving the u.s. navy, what is going on? >> reporter: the first time since president trump took office. the u.s. navy sent the carl rin cent to the region. the navy is calling the operation routine and in january secretary of state rex tillerson said china should be deniedac esz in those waters. a

the combination of our -- of secretary mattis, of director pompeo at the cia, the secretary kelly at homeland security, i think gives the american people great confidence that the team and this administration is providing the leadership and the direction to those agencies and also to the president of the united states to advance the security of our people. >> jeff, just to be clear, this is the first time that anyone from the white house is actually saying essentially that former national security adviser michael flynn lied to the vice president. >> exactly, poppy, this is the first time he's talked about it and he said he was disappointed to learn this. i was told that his anger at the time was far hotter than that. the vice president was speaking in a very measured way, as we would expect him to, of course, on the world stage. but it is my understanding based on reporting here that the reason that general flynn was asked to resign was because the vice president was as mad as he has ever been, he feels like he was lied to, and he was also left out of the loop. but poppy, it's an ope

trump's pick at cia. so flynn, there are questions that his job security right now.on't want to have that when you're dealing with what may be a crisis like this. and obviously, tillerson at state is new to it. so mattis will play an important role. he is the most experienced of the trio. >> we were talking about the government agencies including the cia and some have described it as contend shus. some of the language was widely criticized by cia officials. he will have to rely on the intelligence community for the intelligence brief as to what happened. the nature of that missile test and implications for shaping his it's responsibility. >> i think it is times like this that continuing president and the administration wish they did not, refused to read the briefing that's the cia gave early on. these are the kind of critical times the administration is going to have to analyze to counter these effects. really quickly, let's go back to when we talked about flynn. one of the things is has the pure case of loose lips, unfortunately, fesenko sh lly s. you cannot give an

time to chuck dirt at the cia.agencies allowed any information that turned out to be so false and fake out, that they did that, i think it is a disgrace. i say that, and i say that, and that is something that nazi germany would have done. but the teflon don is no more. the grime is sticking to president trump as never before. at the heart of the flynn fiasco are fears that team trump had a russian connection with kremlin spies. this morning, the new york times reported that us intelligence sources told it that three of his closest election aides have repeated contact with russian intelligence officials. all three deny it. trump took to twitter to fight back. the best evidence for the russia connection might not be all nonsense, it was from the man himself in the campaign. russia, if you are listening, i hope you are able to find the 30,000 e—mails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. today, the former reality tv star was clear who was to blame. america's greatest newspapers

. >> for the white house to be seeking help from the intelligence leadership, either at cia, fbi, or elsewhere to knock down stories it doesn't like is completely inappropriate. >> democrats insisting on an independent investigation got support from one republican. >> i want an investigation because i want this administration to be different than the last one that basically didn't want investigations of anything. >> a former president argued the nation needs to know exactly want white on -- what went on. >> i've never been a lawyer and i'm not sure the right avenue to take. i am sure that the question needs to be answered. >> the white house continues to go after leaks plaguing the president. sean spicer called together participants of a meeting where information linked to look at their smartphones to look for evidence of applications. spicer reminded staffers that such apps run afoul of the presidential records act. he was also looking for a couple phone numbers associated with journalists. officials won't say whether he identified any leakers. >> bret: more on all of this with the

you know, at cia there are people who know a lot about donald trump's connections to the russians. how can he leave them in place? it's dangerous to him if the story is anything other than completely annodine. there are changes coming. the cia has this dissent channel not to give people a chance to speak their minds, but in order to avoid the dangers of group think. this is a response to situations like the cuban missile crisis where people looking back said there wasn't enough discussion. maybe if we had an open discussion, we could have avoided mistakes. how much longer will they exist for? and how ferociously will the president try to turn the united states government into something like a single-minded entity? and the question for all of us is, what happens to people who are either forced out or who resign on principle? do americans care? or are they left one by one to be picked off? >> speaking of purges, certainly the president was trying to purge sally yates. i just want to give sally yates her moment. it's the most poignant moment we possibly could have found. i found this

that doesn't excuse misbehavior by government officials that are at cia and fbi that might be releasingrmation. the problem is that you need to zero in on the larger issue. >> and richard. want to finalize the thought on that? >> yeah, fbi has made a determination that general flynn did nothing illegal and if you examine this logan act that you hear everybody talking about, which nobody has enforced in the history of the logan act and forget that. there's going to be no criminal prosecution against flynn for that, but there will be an investigation and it's important the american people want to know who directed flynn to go there. who directed -- >> there's a real conclusion, it's really more the issue of the pursuit of the investigation against flynn and what he talked about happened. >> but it won't. >> if they don't give flynn immunity, he's never going to testify. and the fbi's going to have to release transcripts. >> they're going to have to give flynn immunity in order to get to the truth here. >> all right. always good to see you. never long enough. >> see you, too. >> thanks so

recently put in or is in the process of putting heads of many agencies that he's tapping himself at cia and dia, the dni, and over at other agencies, nsa. i would imagine that the president would want those new heads, those leaders who he's appointed to do some assessment themselves to determine the capabilities and the scope of their organizations. if this is purely about leaks, there are inspector generals that each of these agencies have that can assess that. if this goes toward the capabilities and the functionality of the intel community, you really need somebody who understands the community and has spent time in the community. it's incredibly complex. there are 17 different agencies, and some type of analysis or review would be long ranging and really require some special expertise, katy. >> jon, we touched on this a moment ago but defense secretary james mattis is in europe along with vice president pence, who will be joining them today. talk to me about the tifts they a difficulties they are facing trying to ensure our allies about nato. >> the challenge both of them have is ar

cia tends to be -- tends to lean pretty far right. so this idea that there is some sort of hillary-initiated conspiracy that exists at the cia, that theypreposer theous. but i honestly think that as an organization -- or the intelligence communi at large, the cia, the nsa, really all of the people who work from, from the top to the bottom, take very seriously their role in collecting information. not making policy. collecting information that is intended to help policy makers and the administration make policy that's going to keep america safe. so this incredible politicization of the agency and all the picks i think that has really rattled the intelligence community. >> lindsay, what do you think the president needs to do to improve the relationship? so much damage has been done at this point. >> you are right. so much damage has been done. there have been a number of missteps right from the get-go. even to the point of ignoring intelligence briefs, you know, for a long time trump wasn't even interested in hearing the presidential daily brief. and that is something you know aed lo of people put work into that. and the point of that is

david: very quickly, the first stop of the president after his inauguration was at cia headquarters. he got a standing ovation. one thought they were off to a good start. what happened? is that misleading or leaking misleading what would characterize the whole agency? >> i would never characterize the whole agency, based on what i think is a handful of rogue agents and employees. david: okay. >> you can not condemn the entire agency because two or three folks went rogue on you. david: congressman, we have breaking news. have to leave it at that. congressman collins, thank you for being here. >> good to be here. david: good to have you,. melissa: breaking news. president obama signing a bill that prevents obama era environmental regulations going into effect. it should help protect the beaten-down coal industry that could put more than half of the nation's coal reserves off limits to new mining. let's listen in. [applause] >> you folks put up with a lot. in other countries they love their coal. over here we haven't treated it respect it deserves, even for defense, having that coal is

get to today and we will begin with former cia director john brennan who in addition to serving as homeland security advisor to president trump spent 25 years at the cia under both democratic and republican administrations. welcome. let's start with reports that the white house asked the chairman of the two intelligence committees to not back reports about an investigation into russian efforts to collude with the trump campaign in the election. how does that strike you, what is your reaction to that? >> i certainly don't know the conversation of the, content of the conversations they had with the media and i have and have tremendous respect for burr who is on the senate committee who will be undertaking this investigation. it is important that investigation be done in a bipartisan gags, if it is only one party leading this, it is not going to deliver the results that the american people need and deserve. so i do hope that they are very conscious of the fact that not just the concern about the content of the discussion they might have had with the media but it is appearance of any impropriety, but again i think chairman burr the recognizes his

if you're at the cia, you're at the fbi, you're listening to mike pompeo and jim comey saying we have a president of the united states who can't resist kicking us in the as every day, you stop paying attention. meanwhile you have north korea popping missiles, you have to figure out how iran is dealing with nuclear sanctions, you have to figure out what's going to go on with the palestinians when they heard what the president said from the podium today with netanyahu, you've got real business. so, i think people are going to start to say, we're going to ignore this guy. >> yeah, and when he accuses the nsa and the fbi of behaving, as you see, like russia, that's not necessarily nazi germany as he did the other day, but it's still obviously very serious. >> and remember, and phil knows this better than anybody, they might be desensitized inside the intelligence community to tweets like this. but at the end of the day, the president needs these intelligence operatives to help him do things like what phil was saying, with north korea. i mean, this is -- we're talking about the safety and

cia custody. haspel was reportedly present at a cia black site in thailand in 2002 as interrogators carried out mitchelland jessen's program of waterboarding, beatings, sleep deprivation, starvation, and other forms of torture. this month, the former acting director of the cia confirmed that in 2005, haspel personally oversaw the destruction of videotapes showing torture at the black site. in san jose, california more , than 14,000 residents have been forced to evacuate their homes after heavy rains caused the region's largest reservoir to overflow. some neighborhoods were so badly flooded that firefighters went door-to-door in boats rescuing trapped residents. it's the worst flooding to hit silicon valley in a century. and richmond, california has become the first u.s. city to call for an investigation into whether to impeach president donald trump. tuesday's resolution, approved by the richmond city council, states trump is in violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution, which prohibits people holding federal office from accepting payments from foreign governments. these are some of the cit

he resigned from the cia, and in looking at his postings on the internet. was a very unhappy employee. >> what is the difference between the cia and the nsa? as apstein: the cia foreign intelligence service. the nsa has two missions. to protect internet communications, internet, telephone, government communications. the second started out as code intoing, but has evolved basic intercepting of all electronic communications, the entire spectrum, or are they are , -- wherever they are, and it is the queen on the chessboard because every other american intelligence service and our nsa.s depend on the they need to intercept through some phone conversation, internet communication, or some telemetry, so the nsa is agency.y a super spy it is limited to foreign intelligence. it is not supposed to do in a surveillance -- any surveillance on persons in america. >> cia? dr. epstein: no. the cia is also limited that it butot surveillance america, the fbi can go from anywhere. >> from your knowledge, how much does this country spend on intelligence? dr. epstein: snowden

incoming president in an official capacity is her long-time mentor, saul barenson, a top deputy at the cia. how is saul doing this season? >> he's doing well. he's -- good lord. there's nothing i can tell you without getting in trouble. >> reporter: they understand the community, on screen and in real life. you interface a lot with the actual intelligence gathering agencies of washington. how has that changed your perception of who these people are who are fighting this war on terrorsome >> i meet them, have dinner with them, i e-mail them and have a relationship with them. they are concerned beyond imagination. both in the fictional world and in the real world. >> reporter: there is a discussion happening in hollywood about the responsibility of the media in portraying muslims. >> yes. >> reporter: where do you think on that in terms of this show's responsibility? >> i sit right in the middle of it. i'm part of the responsibility. i hope to be part of the cure and i'm without a doubt part of the problem. so we have to work very hard, and we do, at attending to the muslim, islamic communit

he's former chief of staff at the cia and the department of defense under president obama.eremy, we may need to walk the audience through why this is significant. again, this is the vice president went out on a limb and said in several interviews no, that never happened. today we learned it did happen and now we're hearing the reason the vice president said what he said is because he was told that by michael flynn himself. >> let's break this down. there are three issues athe heart of this. first, did the national security adviser talk about sanctions with the russian ambassador? in my view by the way, i might be against the grain here, i think it is okay for an incoming national security adviser during a transition to talk with another country's representative and even to signal that, hey, the new team is going to go in a different direction. i don't think that's as problematic as some people are saying. >> some think it's a violation of law. >> i think that's overdone. i think there are two other issues, however. second is why did he feel the need to conceal this to the v

that's why select committees are formed so we can look at the cia and the fbi and the military all in one setting. well, mitch mcconnell and paul ryan said, no, let's do it in the intelligence committees. what do the intelligence committees mean? it means this is all not done in public. and i think there was an effort to try to tamp this down, look the other way, and that's what's really a problem here. i don't know what all the facts are at this point and i want the truth to come out, but for these repuicans who spent days and days and millions and millions of dollars over repeated hearings around hillary clinton's e-mail server -- >> they all wanted them publicized, they didn't want to do anything in private. >> that's exactly right. that's why i think it's really important we apply the same standard. people in america are sick of this rabid partnership. if it's one party it gets investigated, if it's the other party we look the other way. let's do this aboveboard, by the book, and have the investigation that can reassure -- i think the trump administration ought to welcome it becau

>> so rick wilson, there he is at the cia. he's actually president of the united states standing there saying, you know, we should have >> yeah, i think all of us here in this room, all of us in america have generally paid for our gas and oil all along and i'm sure that we will continue to do so in the future. we're not in iraq to seize anybody's oil. >> one overseas journalist was more blunt in asking mike pence who exactly the world should believe. >> vice president, you've given your assurances today here in brussels to european leaders that the u.s. is committed to working with europe. president trump has said very different things. he said that the eu is a vehicle for germany, that the u.k. was smart to get out and he expected other countries to follow. who should european leaders listen to, you or president trump? and can they be certain that what you say, the assurances that you give won't be contradicted if a tweet or a statement at a press conference tomorrow. >> it's my great privilege to serve as vice president for

the back story on the woman appointed to be number two at the cia her long career as a spy and history with waterboarding coming up. >>> president trump just named gina haskell putting her second in command to mike pompeo, for the record, you won't be seeing any photos simply because the cia will not release any images, pamela brown is on this. tell me what you're learning about her and her connection in the past to waterboarding? >> reporter: she's been an under cover cia officer for 30 years and as you pointed out there are no public pictures of her. there are many within the intelligence community that are applauding her appointment, saying she's an exceptional officer but also those including politicians on capitol hill raising concern about her past ties to the cia's former torture program, she served in thailand known as a black site when suspected terrorists were held there, in this case she was responsible for the facility but would not have participated directly in the interrogation and one official confirms she did send the order of destruction of tapes at the direction of he

cia. >> general flynn looks at the cia because it's a civilian agency. he looks at it with a great definitely suspicion. >> reporter: while serving as head of u.s. intelligence, flynn shared information with another agency without permission. he shared secrets with pakistan, flynn said he had permission to share the information. no misconduct was found. he was informally reprimanded but not charged. senior officers who worked with flynn described him to cnn as bitter. he's certainly been less fill erred about his beliefs aboutis ram. >> this is islam and it is a vicious cancer inside the body of 1.7 billion people on this planet and it has to be excised. >> this tweet a year ago, saying quote, fear of islam is rational, another tweet from him with a link to a completely fabricated story of hillary clinton involvement with sex with minors. >> if it he blatantly lied to the vice-president, i think he could be in trouble and his tenure could be short. >> reporter: tonight two -- adam schiff says if flynn secretly discusses sanctions with the russian ambassad

i worked at the cia for six years, i worked with buck actually, we were there at the same time and the people i knew there would never do something like this. they pride themselves on being apolitical. i don't buy it. maria: you don't buy it. >> i think it's more professional and better than that. maria: isn't it true that there are career, you know, officials that work in intelligence that you may not be able to know? >> no, you don't have people walking around the hallways that are open about their political affiliation, in fact, that would be frowned upon. there's the hatch act that could prevent people from acting in a politicized way in the course of their duties but that doesn't mean even though there's a law that you're not supposed to do that and while intelligence is supposed to be nonpartisan, that's not people that take it upon themselves wrongly to do things that are partisan and intent but the notion that people inside the intel community would be hiding information, that's not theirs, it's the government's information, the executive's information, they are making designat

let's bring out our panel members tonight, former chief of staff at the cia and the pentagon, jeremy bash is with us this evening. nbc's katy tur who covered the entire trump campaign from the start, and radio personality charlie sykes. good evening to you all. i'm going to begin with you, jeremy. to believe this story, any of it, all of it, you have to believe that flynn called the russian ambassador and said, in effect, when these new measures come out, don't worry, we're going to have your back. and further, you have to believe that he was either acting on his own or with tacit approval. do we have that right? >> we have a united states that is completely at odds with anything we've seen in foreign relations, and that is a total u.s. capitulation to all of russia's natives. the second bit of context, brian, is that we have under way at this hour, not past tense but present tense, at this hour a russian operation to influence u.s. policy to do what i just described, to force america to do things it wouldn't ordinarily do. that intelligence operation is under way. they were trying t