at least understanding the data, the statistics, the numbers you cited, lisa. so one of the things we did is we literally varietied myra into our organization to do a briefing. myra had our organization in tears over a luncheon session. explaining who myra is, where she comes from, she did some google maps to -- >> it is a empowering story. i can't wrap my brain around why there are 90,000 people here from myanmar that nobody knows. we see them in groups, we hear about them. why don't we hear about these people? >> this is the way i address it. years ago, at the end of the vietnam war we kind of have visuals, we remember boat people, many, many people came over. many years ago we heard about the hmongs who had immigrated to the u.s. from the data we look at they have been scattered throughout the u.s., clustered not in just one city but all these cities throughout the u.s. what is most interesting is these places like omaha, nebraska, we went outreach in fort wayne, indiana, north carolina, not places you would is consider to include asian communities. >> you m

responsible for at least understanding the data. the statistics, the numbers, you know, you cited, lisa. and so one of the things that we did was we literally invited myra in to our organization to do a briefing for us and myra had our organization in tears over a lunch and learn session to just explain what she was just explaining to you about who myra is, where she comes from, the jungle, she did some google maps for us and if you want you can do google maps and hover over the refugees sites. >> it's a tragic and empowering story. i can't wrap my brain around why there are 90,000 people here from myanmar and nobody knows. other refugees communities we know about them. see them in groups and hear about them. why don't we hear about these people? >> that's a great question. the way i address it, years ago at the end of the vietnam war, we kind of have some visuals, right, we remember boat people. many, many people came over. 20 years ago we heard about the mongs who had immigrated to the u.s. these communities have been coming to the

the united states. for cloud data, ibm exports. >> right. >> the industry is hemorrhaging. there is no protection, no meaningful protection. >> i understand your point there, because there are at least a group of people from the telecommunications business who did visit with the president who complained that there were problems in terms of competition, saying their own software was being tainted. that was a problem, to get public trust, if you will, for those particular companies. so that is a valid point. but the president did acknowledge that the u.s. has gone too far in spying on world leaders. he is saying that, you know, if he wants to talk to the german chancellor, angela merkel, he can pick up the phone and call her. they are not necessarily going to spy on foreign leaders. but would still spy on foreign governments. i want you to listen to the distinction that the president made. >> now, let me be clear. our intelligence agencies will continue to gather information about the intentions of governments. as opposed to ordinary citizens. around the world. in the same way that the intelligence services of every other nation does. we will not apologize simply because our services