the mar-a-lago member was often with trump and the topic of conversation at one point, turn to the military still disposal to europe to >> in our exclusive interview tonight, the former mar-a-lago employee who worked there for two decades, brian butler told me what he says are other secrets that he believes former president trump, that he overheard for president trump was discussing with pratt >> were there ever any instances when >> you were still working there that you witness for trump was in your view, carelessly throwing around national security information >> you know that it's really, you know stood out to me, but i believe it was april of 2021 there was a member, anthony pratt, who he was coming. he he flew in the night before. >> he's an australian billionaire he finishes his meeting with the former president, gets in the car and his cheapest half says, how did the meeting go? pratt without saying just says he told me and it would be us military classified information of what he told them about russian submarines and us submarines and that's really all i remember hearing and i went

dropped time and i'm like, oh, my god, carlos de oliveira, who is not only the property manager at mar-a-lago, but well, my best friend, i mean, we used to talk every day. every day. i mean, we were always at least in some sort of contact >> and you had just seeing him a few days before that. >> think for days he was at my house. we played golf, we had a great time and mustard shocked you too. >> you know it hurts. >> no contact since then >> and i should be clear. jack smith's investigators sought you out. how many times did you think you've have you talked to investigators now? >> a probably between 4.5 times. >> can we talk about what started all of this, which is the boxes, i mean, trump was clearly obsessed with these boxes at one point in the indictment, someone refers to them as his beautiful mind paper. >> what >> was known among the employees about about why he cared about these boxes so much for you guys. >> did you talk about them? >> i never talked about them. i really didn't even know what was going on until the investigation. i started reading in the news, employees were getting

did you ever think to yourself why were there so many boxes at mar-a-lago? >> for me. i'm just thinking out of the former president and he has a lot of stuff he likes to lug around with them. i never would've thought it was anything like what we see testify jake it is just a remarkable moment. kaitlan collins and i've been reporting on this story along with the rest of our team, but reporting on this story for, for so long in this moment it is so remarkable to hear from someone who has not spoken publicly before, but clearly just by his proximity and his long-standing time hi, guys at the former president's club was able to provide such valuable information to investigators about what was happening here while heal, he himself, jake was still piecing this all together behind the scenes >> katelyn polantz, mother quit his job at mar-a-lago in about a year-and-a-half ago in late 2022. y come forward to share his story now he says that he just wants to tell the truth. jake, that was one of them messages that came across loud and clear from brian butler when he was speaking

here is how trump introduced orban at mar-a-lago. take a quick listen. >> there's nobody that is better, smarter, or a better leader than viktor orban. he's fantastic. he does a great job.

at mar-a-lago speech. >> it was very presidential speech. week at mar-a-lago. we talked about a lot of things we would do, we have to get there there is a long way between now and november, the idea of what we could do to get our economy moving again, to cut taxes so that everyone would benefit, like we saw last time, secure america's border, people are excited about, that it is why you see the numbers for trump continue to rise, why you see him do so well, not only in primaries but look at polls in swing states with the match up of biden against trump. in states like michigan. and you see with african-americans with hispanics who are fed up with biden policies and lower income families who are getting hit by biden's inflation agenda they are fed up, they want to go back to days of do donald trump wa our robust economy. that was all case we have to get bang to that, donald trump will bring us back quickly. that is where we need to go. larry: drill, baby, drill a tax cuts, deregulation, border control, a good co combination, steve sc scalise

butler recounted trump's attempt to cover up the crimes with a conversation with another at mar-a-lago. >> i said oh, by the way, walt's coming tomorrow. cool, that's great. okay. it wasn't until the following day when we are out walking he said by the way, it's a secret. don't anybody walt is coming. and, why? well, he needs me to find something out before he gets here. oh, what's that? he needs me to, how long the camera footage is saved at mar- a-lago. i'm like oh, well, that's odd. why do you need the camera footage? why do you need to know how long it is saved? his response was i think they are looking for somebody that was there. i think the american people have the right to know the facts that this is not a witch hunt. >> that claim from the ex- president, this is all a big witch hunt is effectively what his lawyers organized in cart today. they tried to get the case dismissed this afternoon using some tortured legal logic including a claim that the law was unconstitutionally vague. the judge ultimately rejected that particular argument today choosing instead to basicically quic

did you ever think to yourself why were there so many boxes at mar-a-lago? >> for me. i'm just thinking out of the former president, he has a lot of stuff he likes to lug around with them i never would've thought it was anything like what we see >> jake, we've received one comment in response to this story from the defense teams here. that is from carlos de oliviera's lawyer, john irving, and he says that they look forward to seeing what brian butler will say under oath, potentially if he's called to testify via the trial. >> all right. kaitlan, poland's along with kaitlan collins, a big scoop today. thanks so much. former federal prosecutor elie honig is back with me, elie. what do you make of that response from the oliveira's attorney? >> well, jake, it's certainly fair for any defense lawyer to say we don't want to make public statements and will be litigating this case in court. notably different, however, from the approach of the co-defendant, donald trump, who has very much tried to litigate this case in the court of public opinion. now it's also worth noting. it'

did you ever think to yourself, why were there so many boxes at mar-a-lago? e, i'm just thinking, the former president, he has a lot of stuff he likes to lug around with him. i never would have thought it was anything like what we see now. >> classified documents. >> yeah. >> butler's interview with cnn there. butler, walt nauta's legal team, and the office of special counsel jack smith declined to comment to nbc news. the trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment by nbc, though cnn reports a lawyer for trump declined to comment. joining us now, former litigator and msnbc correspondent lisa rubin. good morning. let's start with brian butler saying explicitly, i helped walt nauta load boxes onto a private plane to get them away from mar-a-lago around the time the fbi was coming to search for classified documents at mar-a-lago. how does mr. butler play into all of this? >> mr. butler shows up in the indictment with six different references across two paragraphs. none of those paragraphs relate to the incident we were watching as he desc

interview with a key witness in the trump classified documents case, known only as trump employee five, at least until now? cnn's kaitlan, poland's as a west palm beach, florida near mar-a-lago, kaitlan. who is this witness? and why is he speaking out now >> well, if this is brian butler, brian butler worked for donald trump for 20 years at the mar-a-lago club at one point, running the car service for all of the gases that's coming in and out of the club. he eventually left that job in fall of 2022, but that was not before he had been privy to some major conversations and moments in this classified documents investigation. and now he is someone who has spoken to prosecutors multiple times and clearly is a key witness. for the indictment. one of those moments he recalls, wolf is june 3 of 2022 when he was working at the club and the bodyman of donald trump, walt nauta, asked him oddly in his estimation, to borrow an escalator, a cadillac escalades so that it could be used on the very same day that the justice since department fbi agents were coming to mar-a-lago to collect documents classified records that might be there that day. they did not get all of them. and brian butle

president trump's request to toss out criminal charges alleging he hoarded classified documents at mar-a-lago. the presumptive gop nominee seen arriving this morning, greeting supporters gathered outside the florida courthouse. his attorneys arguing the law on national security secrets is too vague and that mr. trump believed he was allowed to keep the documents as his personal records according to the presidential records act, saying last night -- >> i took them very legally, and i wasn't hiding them. >> reporter: but federal judge aileen cannon, a trump appointee tonight writing a dismissal over vagueness now would be, quote, premature. and earlier at the hearing, appearing skeptical of any argument to toss the charges based on the presidential records act, telling mr. trump's team, "it's difficult to see how this gets you to the dismissal of an indictment." no decision yet on a trial date. mr. trump's team urging her to push it until after the november election. that ruling coming after a surprising setback for manhattan's prosecutors, just 11 days before mr. trump's hush money trial was s

foreign prison, what do you think he's trying to signal by hosting viktor orban of all people at mar-a-lago. and obviously he's been praising him for a long time now as tucker carlson yeah. i mean, look, it's worth remembering. he called viktor orban, the president of turkey at one point. so let's remember that, but no, i mean, look, this is viktor orban has become almost like bukele and el salvador, some meme for the right in terms of strength, you see that he flirts around with almost endorsing putin donald trump does, and viktor orban as a strongman, that since he's in nato and since he's european, donald trump can just outright embrace and that's what he's doing. he's signaling to the base and the republican party that somehow think a strongman like this is good and really all just has to do with making the left mad. that's what he's doing. he's signaling that this is really bad. viktor orban, all you have to do is watch anytime aid for ukraine comes up in the eu, for instance, they always block it until they get some payoff on the side. or even sweden's accession into nato was delayed

cnn's kristen holmes starts us off tonight with more on viktor orban's visit at mar-a-lago. so what is going on with this meeting? >> well, interesting. that is a very good question. and i just heard from a source who said the actual sit down meeting was about 45 minutes to an hour, and then the two of them went to listen to a tribute band at mar-a-lago for part of a members only evening. the source described them as friends and the meeting as friendly. now i was told we were going to get a actual readout of this meeting and photos from it, but we have not seen anything like that. they had described it to me as a social meeting, essentially saying that the two men were going to sit down with no agenda. but of course, if you have the leader of hungary, viktor orban, and donald trump seems strange that there would be no agenda. but you have to remember one thing donald trump, for all intents and purposes, is a civilian. they are not obligated to give us any sort of readout or discuss anything, take notes, take any kind of transcript with a leader of another nation. but it does

at a federal courthouse. he's there in a bid to get his mar-a-lago classified documents case dismissed. there are no cameras at this hearing, but we have a team inside ready to report out the details as we get them. joining us from outside that courthouse, nbc's dasha burns. also with us, msnbc legal correspondent lisa ruben, former new york assistant attorney general tristan snell, and former federal prosecutor michael zelden. thank you for joining us. dasha, trump's lawyers have filed all kinds of motions to dismiss in this case, in others. but today's hearing addresses two of those motions. what are the arguments? >> reporter: yeah, that's exactly right. two motions. the first has to do with the presidential records act which governs the preservation of information during and after presidency. the second has to do with a rule called unconstitutional vagueness. so when it comes to the president al records act the trump team is going to argue that trump had, quote, unreviewable discretion when he was president to designate certain materials as personal, and trump says that the materials

at a patio dining table at mar-a-lago. same donald trump who hoarded hundreds of classified documents at mar-a-lago. and the same donald trump who had his intelligence access revoked for it, after he left office. so why is that donald trump getting access back? joining us now, former national security adviser to president trump, john bolton. really good to have you ambassador. let me ask you, why is this a danger to give him access to intelligence? >> well, i think trump demonstrated during his presidency and certainly in the handling of the documents after his presidency that he doesn't pay adequate attention to safeguarding these secrets and that the danger is i think commonly known of when they get into the wrong hands of not just revealing the information itself, but risking the sources and methods that are used to procure the information. so i'm somewhat perplexed myself that the biden white house has apparently agreed that he'll get these briefings. i don't think it makes any sense, and i think it really puts whatever

he was given a growth agenda last night at the mar-a-lago speech. >> it was a very presidential speech with the president last week at mar-a-lago and we talked about a lot of the things we can do. we got to get there. there is a long way between now and november, but i think the idea what we could do to get our economy moving again, to cut taxes, so everybody could benefit like we saw last time, to secure america's border, be energy independent, people are excited about that. why you're seeing the numbers for trump continue to rise. that's why you're seeing him do so well not only in the primaries but look at polling in the swing states, when matchup of biden against trump in states like michigan. you're seeing with african-americans, with hispanics who are fed up with the biden policies. lower income families are getting hit hardest by biden's inflation agenda and they want to go back to the days under donald trump when we had a robust economy and our friends knew we had their backs around the world and our enemies feared under the circumstances. that was all the case. we have to back

we want to show you the live pictures of the ballroom at mar-a-lago that is trump's florida residents his country club is an excited crowd is waiting for the former president to speak. we're going to have a live report from there just a moment. also the polls are now closing all but three of the contests and we have the results for you. cbs news can project donald trump will win the second biggest delegate prize of the night, that's texas. as you can see come a dominant win there. trump also picks up a big win in colorado just a day after the supreme court ruled he cannot be eliminated from the ballot in that state. cbs news also projects the former president will win north carolina. that's the only 1 of 7 general election battleground states voting tonight but we'll be talking about north carolina. look at their share of the vote nikki haley got. also polls. look at this. vermont, much tighter at this hour. the polls actually close to three hours ago but cbs news charaterizes it as a toss-up between donald trump and nikki haley. more than half the votes in. this could be haley's only

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he took the stage here at mar a lago taking a victory lap. >> november 5th is right around the cornernovember 5th is going to go down as the single most important day in the history of our country >> one person, the former president, did not mention on that stage his last remaining republican rival, nikki haley. donald trump clearly trying to pivot here to a general election and draw a sharp contrast with president biden and what is likely to be a rematch in november. juju rachel, thank you. >> president biden saying from the white house tonight that the results leave americans with a stark choice between democracy and chaos, saying that trump is, quote, driven by grievance and grift, focused on his own revenge and retribution, not the american people. he is determined to destroy our democracy, end quote. and while donald trump had a dominating performance tonight, his republican challenger, nikki haley, won only one state, and that was vermont. we turn now to abc's alex presha in charleston, south carolina. >> hey, juju. it was a quiet day for nikki haley here in south carolina. quit

worked for trump, whether it was in the white house, whether it was on the campaign, whether it was at mar-a-lago, who whether it was in the documents trial or the federal january 6 trial, who will testify? phi and it will just not be a good fact set for him. so as much as he is going to try to take control of the narrative outside the courtroom where there won't be cameras in any of these trials. there will still be a lot of testimony that gets her that it's just not going to be helpful then i think that's a really good point because we've seen these one-off instances where someone who is close to him turns on him or they illegally cooperate against him because they were placed into georgia is where we're in the middle of it. but this would be to situations and these two cases where it would be a stream of the closest people around him and documents, it would be everyone who's worked at mar a-lago from cooks to people run the car service to bodyman. it january 6, the case in dc, it's everyone who worked in his cabinet and his administration, and it's not actually that different. the type of circ

according to the document, he stored them at mar-a-lago which had thousands of members and guests. stored boxes containing classified documents in various locations at the mar-a-lago club, including in a ballroom, a bathroom and a shower, an office space, his bedroom and a storage room. mar-a-lago is more than a mansion or a compound. it is a club with membership -- with a membership program that sells access to the public. it has hundreds of people moving through it at any given time. staffing alone required 150 staff members. and while those classified national security documents sat in places like his ballroom, trump hosted more than 150 social events, like weddings and movie premiers, which thousands of people attended. in brief, special counsel smith has alleged that trump willfully and knowingly took highly classified documents to a location accessible by tens of thousands of people. mr. hur, was president biden's residence accessible to tens of thousands of people? >> no. >> did president biden ever bring tens of thousands of people into spaces where he stored classified mate

white house, special counsel jack smith argues top secret national security documents had no place at mar a-lago. trump appointed judge aileen cannon is hearing the arguments and she's weighing a potential trial date. we have cnn's kaitlan polantz at the federal courthouse in florida. kaitlan, how is the hearing played out so far >> well, brianna, there are two parts to this hearing. this morning. it has been whether the law was it's clear enough for donald trump to know that he may have been breaking it when he took those national defense records from the white house tomorrow, lago, the judge seemed to tip her hand at the end of the two hours of oral arguments in that question saying to trump's team findings something like this, so vague or unconstitutionally vague as they say it is, that would be an jordan aires steps. so that's where the judge seems to be on that particular question. that was one bid that trump's team was making to try and get the case tossed. >> but there's another set of arguments this afternoon that are just starting any moment now. and that is about whether these are pers

this past weekend, donald trump hosted hungary's prime minister viktor orbÁn at mar-a-lago. i spoke yesterday with hungarian green activist. but first, let's go to president trump praising orbÁn at mar-a-lago. trumka there is nobody better, smarter than the door bond. he is fantastic. he does a great job. he is not a controversial leader. he says this is the way it is going to be. get lost. amy: to talk more, we spoke tuesday with gabor scheiring, visiting fellow at the center for european studies at harvard university and assistant professor at georgetown university in qatar. green party member of parliament in hungary from 2010-2014. his new piece "i watched , hungary's democracy dissolve into authoritarianism as a member of parliament -- and i see troubling parallels in trumpism and its appeal to workers." i asked him to elaborate on what happened in hungary and the parallels he sees here in the united states. >> as the title suggests, there are quite a few parallels between the united states and hungary. what happened in hungary is basically now the country is the first

what do you mean by that, dasha, you can weigh in if you're at mar-a-lago? o make his rounds to the tables and talk about whatever is on his mind. he was talking about if you have an abortion, a member brought it up, important for the midterms, he started to make his rounds to various tables asking folks specifically about south carolina senator tim scott. is his sort of more hardline perspective on the abortion issue, his vocal anti-abortion issue that he campaigned on, that something that could potentially turn off voters. now, this is in the context of what sources tell me is a really big focus for the former president. he saw what happened in 2022, some of the candidates that he endorsed. he was not happy with how they messaged on this issue. sees it as a vulnerability for republicans in the general election. wants to sort of pivot how folks talk about it. so he is weighing this issue, as he's speaking about a potential vice presidential choice. some of the folks around him, his advisers are cautioning him. senator scott, some of them given recently how v

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the fbi agents show up at mar-a-lago on june 3, the next day. and as brian butler noted trump was still there, which was a bit unusual. he typically would leave to go to new jersey to his club earlier than that, but he was still there that day. and what brian remember seeing is trump's attorney evan corcoran. he's very tall, he's got the silver hair. he remember seeing that he didn't know who the other people were in or sin, but he now realizes they were fbi agents and they were there on june 3. we do know that because that was when they handed over those 30 or so classified documents handed over a form that said i attest that this was a diligent search and the best of our ability, everything that was here, of course, that was not true. anderson and the attorney they say didn't know that at the time, but that was months before the fbi showed up and found hundreds of classified documents still there, but it's a key part of this because it was that day before when trump's attorney attorney went into that storage room to look that walt nauta, who is

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one of the lawyers, the one who signed a document saying no classified documents left at mar-a-lago. here were classified documents left at mar-a-lago. how did she get put in charge of this election integrity unit at the rnc? >> a part of strategy on particularly the trump campaign to replace many of the people who were working at the rnc in the past with loyalists. people who trump and his allies know will follow his directives. particularly as relates to ongoing story line about the 2020 election. i think it also sends a message about what we can expect from this iteration of the rnc for the next few months heading into the 2024 presidential election. the message coming from this republican party. one, hand in hand with the message of the trump campaign. i think they will largely be eyed as sort of one body, and a lot of the comments and false claims about what happened in 2020 and about election integrity i think we can expect to continue now hearing that coming from the rnc and the trump campaign as the general election kicks into full gear. >> phil does this mean regardless what

for example, one of the witnesses in the case, an employee at mar-a-lago, who was previously unnamed ictment, just gave a blockbuster interview to cnn where he revealed that trump moved boxes of classified documents out of mar-a-lago while the fbi was trying to get them back. >> a former mar-a-lago employee is now publicly describing how he helped to move materials related to the classified documents case brian butler says he was a mar-a-lago employee for 20 years and handled car service for the former president butler told cnn he helped trump codefendant walt nauta load several boxes onto trump's plane at the west palm beach airport on june 3rd of 2022. that was the same time the fbi was searching a storage area at mar-a-lago for classified documents. >> so, you know, we're there to assist with luggage, anything that needs to go to the plane. we got to the airport. i ended up loading all the luggage i had, and he had a bunch of boxes >> you noticed that he had boxes? >> oh, yeah, they were the boxes that were in the indictment. we were just taking them out of the escalade, piling the

the same day that trump was supposed to meet with federal prosecutors about those documents at mar lago. -- mar-a-lago. >> those were the boxes in the indictment, the white bankers boxes and that is what i remember loading. >> did you have any idea at the time that there was potentially national security secrets in those boxes? >> no clue. we were taking them out of the escalade and piling them up and i remember they were stacked on top of each other and we lifted them up. >> again, trump is meeting at mar-a-lago with the fbi about the documents they say he has as butler and he are loading said documents onto a plane. butler also recounted trump's attempt to cover up the crimes in the form of a conversation with another ally at mar-a- lago. >> i remembered him saying that walt is coming tomorrow and, cool, that is great and i said, okay. but it wasn't until the following day when we were out walking and he said by the way it is a secret and don't tell anybody he is coming. and why? >> well, he needs me to find something out before he gets here. what is that? how long the camera footage is saved a

underlying source material that you would be worried of donald trump announcing at a rally or sharing with a friend at mar-a-lago or sharing with a russian agent who has infiltrated mar-a-lago at a wedding or something. so i would expect that this is probably going to be fairly basic information that is shared. if not, i would actually have real concerns because we have no indication that this person can keep a secret for the time between when he reads something and when he next opens his mouth. >> michael, just talk about the sort of historical weirdness of all this. we have never had an indicted presidential nominee, certainly 91 counts and four indictments, sexual assault adjudication. you could go on and on. this piece is weird because part of the job that president biden has to do tonight is make the case that donald trump is completely -- he's fit for president in a way that contrasts with donald trump's unfitness. let me read you, i'm going to read a little bit of the excerpts of what we got. he says my lifetime has taught me to embrace freedom and democracy. a future based on the core values that have de

even if they don't have the booze at mar-a-lago flowing. laura: this is going to be a big night obviously for donald trump. is he cruising to the nomination. nikki haley, look, she has given it her all. she has crisscrossed the country. she has raised a huge amount of money. i think for the last year she is pretty much represented the more kind of is establishment -- old bush wing of the party better than anyone. and she is attractive, articulate and very smart. try to go at trump. i don't know how you could have done it any better than she did it. i don't think there's a big audience for that there is some audience but not enough, clearly to really motivate the people to turn out to vote in the way she needs it it's a populist party and right now it's donald trump's party. >> martha: brit, what do you think will happen tonight? >> brit: see what donald trump says tonight and interested in what joe biden will say on thursday night at the state of the union address. i think those are the two big things worth watching. whether trump will be co

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his fortunes or misfortunes, all to january 6th and other obvious violations, like what happened at mar-a-lagoh the classified documents, at least on the face of everything we know. those are important issues, but that's what we're talking about now. we're not talking about a lot of things that are coming out of the white house, including, you know, the anniversary of obamacare and a lot of the focus that was today and tomorrow going to be on that, from their perspective. >> i can't agree with you more. it is one of the more frustrating aspects of all of this. my wife put it to me, i think, the best. she said, you know, we have been talking about this one man every day since 2015. name a day of the week, name an hour of the day in which this man's name has not come up on our airwaves, in our conversations, in entanglements with others, just greetings of people. at some point, the conversation is, oh, do you believe donald trump? we are so consumed by all of what he is doing, which is exactly how he wants it. the billions of dollars that is spent to cover this one man on our national broadcasts

remember on friday just three days ago, he hosted hungarian prime minister victor ormonde at mar-a-lago and gave this assessment of the authority and -- authoritarian leader. >> week kept in touch. nobody that's smarter or better than viktor orban. he's a great guy. and on controversial figure because he says this is the way it's going to be and that's the end of it, right? >> he can say this is how it's going to be and people just do it. isn't that great? not our democracy works. but that aside, the guy trump is praising -- praising there is the same person who dismantled democracy in hungary which is not held a free and fair elections in 2010. a guy who created his own court system by ruining the independence of the judiciary. crackdown on freedom of the press openly admitting that reshaping the media helps him maintain his power. left no space for dissent or challenge. that's how dictators take control. so it's easy to appear dominant when you break the system in your favor. he idolizes authoritarians who he perceives is all powerful because he creates the conditions necessary to mai

listen to this >> did you ever think to yourself, why were there so many boxes at mar-a-lago? >> for me, i'm just thinking out of the former president and he has a lot of stuff he likes the lug around with them >> and stephanie, i see you sort of smiling. i mean, you know, the lay of the random lay of the land around trump does that sort of ring true to you? i mean, was this a constant sort of shifting and moving of boxes like this >> you know, absolutely. i felt that that a lot of what he said ring true in the boxes was certainly one of them. i mean, all throughout our time at the white house, he would have his boxes there. there was brown boxes, but if we didn't get these specific big box is on every plane, on every air force, one on marine one, there would be held to pay, so he did like his boxes. now, there were only two or three of them and there were newspaper clippings. it was not, you know, ten to 15 boxes as brian has said. another thing i want to say is that, you know, the mob mentality really rang true to me. he called him the boss, which is what we i'll call him. th

who worked behind the scenes at mar-a-lago for two decades. and now he is speaking out for the first time in a cnn exclusive. now, let me catch everybody up for a second on who this brian butler is. he's already given testimony to federal investigators and tonight, he told kaitlan collins that back in june of 2022, so he helped trump's body man, walt nauta, deliver boxes of classified information from mar-a-lago to trump's plane. now, apparently, he had no idea what was inside of these boxes. i mean, totally oblivious according dam but wait, because there's more because apparently he wasn't just moving the boxes. is the timing of it. he was moving these boxes on the very same day that trump and his attorney were meeting with the doj at mar-a-lago about what? the classified documents you noticed that he had thought they were the boxes that were in the indictment, the white bankers boxes. that's what i remember loading. >> and did you have any idea at the time that there was potentially us national security secrets in those box and no clue. >> no

he was >> also involved in conversations about allegedly trying to destroy evidence of a crime at mar-a-lago according to jack smith's indictment, mar-a-lago property manager, carlos de oliviera also told trump employee number five, which of course we now know is brian butler, that not want to do all of era to talk to trump employee number four, to see how long camera footage was stored. and we have a lot to get to tonight. i want to get to kaitlan polantz, who has been working on this story with her sources to help break it. she's outfront live near mar-a-lago and kaitlan. what more are you learning from butler >> we >> are in it is quite clear from what ryan butler has to say publicly now and also what he spoke to prosecutors about many times is that he is a window, a witness to to the alleged obstruction. the allegations against donald trump, walt nauta, and carlos de olivera, that there was a cover-up for trump because trump did not want to give those classified documents back to the federal government. that is no more apparent that it's so obviously a in the indictment in that he's list

he had victory or ban at mar-a-lago this week. and now john kelly in a book by one of your colleagues, is talking about how much he reveres hitler. i mean, you know, the choice is a pretty clear about what direction we should be going into this country. >> mitch landrieu, if you come out, is that running mate? i'm going to call you. thanks so much for joining us tonight. >> up fleet, something like god thank you. >> anderson, back to you again over on the republican side, the foreign president waiting for polls to close the washington state, which is expected to put them over the top soon as kristen holmes has been talking to her sources in trump world joins us now is what are you learning about the strategy for this campaign moving forward? >> well, anderson, look, leaving, acting as though donald trump is the nominee now for several weeks, a lot of this is trying to talk about how they're going to build out their strategy and their ground game in those critical battleground states, we're talking about georgia, michigan, arizona,

he was a long-time employee at mar-a-lago, and he witnessed some incredibly damning things like the day that trump flew from florida to bedminster, new jersey. trump's body man and his codefendant, walt nauta, asked mr. butler to get nauta a big suv, an escalade. butler then saw nauta and trump's codefendant, carlos deolive yra load them up and load those boxes onto the plane. mr. butler said that all took place on june 3, 2022. later that same day one of trump's lawyers provided investigators with what he said was the entirety of classified documents that remain o in mr. trump's possession as well as a sworn certification that falsely claimed on trump's behalf that he and team trump had conducted a diligent search of boxes and all responsive documents had been turned over. what brian butler is now asserting here is pretty explosive. not only did trump apparently hideaway at least 105 classified documents the fbi eventually found, it sure sounds like trump managed to steal another 10 to 15 boxes of records, and we don'ts, know if the fbi ever go those records back. who knows where those

he looked towards the general election in a speech at mar-a-lago last night, saying november 5th is rightd the corner. >>> on the democratic side, president joe biden won every super tuesday primary. but in minnesota, a sizeable number voted uncommitted in protest of biden's handling of the israel-hamas war. >>> for more, download the cbs news app on your cell phone or connected tv. i'm carissa lawson, cbs news, new york. >>> i still think that joe biden has done a great job. >> tonight, it's super tuesday as america decides. >> i voted for trump, and i think he'll make a strong president again. >> i proudly voted for nikki haley. >> millions of americans weigh in on who they want to be their nominees for president. what voters are telling us as the results come in. >> biden's too old, and trump's a little too crazy. >> the context and analysis now on the "cbs overnight news." >> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." >>> good evening and welcome to the biggest primary night of the 2024 election as the stage is nearly set for the general. it will likely be a rematch between joe bide

mar-a-lago is tortured. he says he is immune from prosecution for willfully retaining the documents at mar-a-lago after he waslonger president because he was lawfully in possession of them as president and, therefore, it emanates from an official agent. that's a more attenuated argument than the one he is making in the federal election interference case. going back to your original question, am i surprised they are saying there's no reason for a trial date? not at all. i expected them to do this all along. >> we can't ignore the legal and political collide in this case. really in all of the cases. kristin welker did an interview with nikki haley and asked her about the trials before the election. take a listen. >> i think all of the cases should be dealt with before november. we need to know what's going to happen before the presidency happens, because after that, should he become president, i don't think any of it will get heard. >> joyce, can trump's team just delay, delay, delay, delay, delay? how likely are we to see this trial, the mar-a-lago case, or the d.c. election interference case, or the georgia c