i started looking at it in 2002 as a point where wal-mart for the first time became the largest company on the planet and this was a really signal moment i think that's a lot of people grasped at the time because it was the first time in as a service provider, a place where women in blue smocks asking if i can help do replaced big heavy industry distractive of oil companies, motor companies in this kind of things. and the effect of that seems so far reaching in some of the parts of people's lives that seems like a good way to get a core sample from an awful lot of different changes. so i was really kind of a great fall to the company for presenting at south so clearly at the laboratory for these things when it did it. >> host: i want to come back to the question of women because that is one of the most interesting things in the book but i want to go back to the early years because this is a work of history about wal-mart and so much of the writing about wal-mart as you mention is by economists or social scientists are other people who don't have a long view and when you to come as with

for the women working in wal-mart the maid service essential to the company's own egos, there may well in christian circles we've reconfigured christian family life so at one point in the '80s wal-mart is employing a director of a marriage and family living who is giving advice to managers and saying, go home of the work that your wife is doing in the household, she's probably got a job and this is now the norm for everyone. but yet she comes home and she put herself out there, she does this work for you and your children and makes your house a nice place to be. why the u.s. in mustachios you that were? down to have enough sense to come home and banker? don't you have enough sense to come home and banker, and using this recognition of that female work and he is saying directly to the managers, do that in the workplace. recognize that the work the women are doing for you in the home and on the job both deserve recognition and praise. doesn't mean you are supposed to do it, it doesn't mean it is supposed to be particularly well remunerated, but it does mean that is her proper role paillette is a role that is ennobling, that merits praise, and so the whol

patients are around the world, some who cannot even afford to pay the code pay -- the co pay like at wal-martwhich is around $4? and at walgreen's, it is maybe $1.10. i heard the report about maybe getting some of his back. how is this going to help? where is medicare going to fall at? are they going to get rid of medicare, or some of things that you cannot fix, like pick your own doctor? host: the open washington *" a column says the honeymoon is over. the insurance industry claims that they cannot survive if they compete with a public auction. if they do such a poor job, they should go. carolyn is on the line, republican line. caller: i am in the hospital right now for breathing problems. i had a very bad attack with my lungs and i have been here since saturday. sinchost: how are you feeling? caller: not very good right now. my husband is a disabled veteran, 100% disabled and i have aarp insurance. it is not born to be enough to cover this. host: how long do you think you will be in the hospital? caller: lord, i do not know. i am not well enough to go home yet. host: how old are you? caller

wal-mart was made in america. well, that sign isn't up anymore. it hasn't been up in years because i don't know if they make anything in america they sell at wal-mart. it i. me to no end. this time of year you go into wal-mart you want to buy a flag like that one, and it's made in china. we can't even make our own flags because manufacturing in this country is being killed by the cost of doing business. that bill in front of you, judge gohmert, is not going to help that at aw. it's going to make the situation worse. the last thing that bill does not do is create more energy. it taxes energy. it does not provide for more energy for americans. nuclear energy, i mean even france uses 80% of its energy comes from nuclear energy. it can be done and created in a clean and safe way. we don't build, we don't have any more energy -- nuclear plants in this country because of the fear tactics that have been placed upon the thoughts. so we don't use nuclear energy. we are not doing anything. we are not drilling offshore even more natural gas. natural gas is supposed to be the product that we go from this one environment to this beautiful environment. of course

over 50 different drugs that would cost me, at wal-mart, about $700 a month. i have had numerous operations. all i have ever paid is $8 a month. if he is paying for his own operations, he has to be borderline retarded. the statement that people make all the time about canada patients coming to america, there is a radio that the satellite, those all over the world, there is a man that comes their every afternoon. he has a standard line open all the time for anybody from canada, england, france, who wants to call and criticized their health care system. i listen to him every night. it is a repeat every night about 7:00. i have never heard a person yet call and criticize their system. he gets a lot of calls from canada. everyone of them praises their system and say this is nothing but republican talking points. guest: ok, i have no idea what guest: ok, i have no idea what that last bit was thaabout.

there were 62 different lawsuits that wal-mart finally decided to settle right at christmas time, december 24. they're going to end up paying workers between $30,600,000,000 in unpaid overtime. they made that decision to pay that overtime because those trial attorneys filed suit against wal-mart. so the trial attorneys are really doing a lot of the pushback. now the problem with trial attorneys, and some of my best friends are trial attorneys, is if you've not gotten paid $200, you know, it matters to you but it probably isn't enough for a trial attorney to take your case, which is why we have to have a strong that are department of labor that is really stopping and deterring wage theft and punishing those who steel wages. so i have actually a fair amount of the book has several chapters on how we create a vigorous department of labor that can really enforce the labor laws. and we have kind of a plant at interfaith worker justice for this so let me outline quickly in my closing couple minutes what we're recommending that folks do at the department of labor. one, they have to get more staff

some that cannot even afford to pay the co-payment like wal-mart, i'm going to say, $4 and then at walgreen's which is the best, i believe, maybe $1.10. looking at tv last night and i heard about -- i seen on tv that there was some incentives about getting some of this money back. and some of the providers that help you with paying some of those payments. but how is this going help? where is medicare going fall at? are they going to get rid of medicare or some of the things that you can't pick your own doctor? >> thanks, sylvia. tony blakely, who joined us thursday on "journal," his article today, his take -- even obama's supporters claim the honeymoon is over. we have this, the insurance industry claims they can't survive if they compete with a public option, if they do such a poor job, they should go. carolyn is on the line. caller: i'm in the hospital. host: i'm in for breathing problems, i had a very bad attack with my lungs and i've been here since saturday. host: how are you feeling? caller: not really good right now, a little better. i realize my department of defense insurance, issued

at a bill that might -- >> a lot of businesses do the right thing and like to. have happy and healthy employees. >> that's atavistic. >> people were complaining wal-mart had employees on medicare and medicaid, what are they doing now? they've changed because public opinion said let's do it, their employees are happier, even at a time when they have probably four applicants for every job. this is not exactly a buyer's market. and so, there are many businesses that want to do the right thing. and as i say, i believe that. >> do you think those businesses are represented by lobbyists in washington? >> indeed. indeed, i do. so i think that there are some, at some point, who are going to say, wait a minute. i can't afford this. or i'm going to ask my employees to go in but then employees have to go in. if the boss can't take the cadillac -- the boss can't take the cadillac coverage and kick the employees out. but i think you find this among small businesses, they'd like to do it for their employees and can't afford it. hopefully under this plan you'll be able to. >> you had your own experience with illness earlier this year, seeing health care up close and personal, wha

10% market penetration and manage the nano pawn would look at that as an asset not a liability and maintain in that market share. and wal-mart many urban areas with market evanish in here's a place you've got marketing manager. out of to give deference to those dealerships in particular. >> senator warner. >> thank you mr. chairman and welcome back. i want to follow up to senator brown backs, and one echoing my other colleagues concerns about the real human affects these decisions have had upon your dealer networks and their employees and families across the country but also recognizing the economic reality of the last couple years the national auto sales were down to about 10 million and the reality means that to shrink. with i also have to say at some level some of the two spent 20 years in the business sector before i went into public service if i would've ever thought in my business life that i would see a group of senators trying to micromanage the workings of american industry like gm and chrysler i would have said never would happen so if there was any more impetus to try to get back to profitability in get the garmen

wal-mart. we always had our car dealerships, jim's family has been in business at the same location since 1935. an institution in the turtle creek valley. i wouldn't buy a jeep from anyone else beside the gollaks. i don't care their showroom isn't fancy. i don't care that it's not the newest most modern-looking place or they don't have a giant floor. what they have is service. they know you when you come in. you don't have to have -- they don't take that little piece of paperback to the manager and say i'll try to get you a better deal and go through that whole dog and pony show they pull with these big places. they give you a good price up front and they take care of you. that's why i buy jeeps there. i wouldn't think of going anywhere else. i raise my family on dodge caravans. my wife susan and i -- we have four children. that car took care of our family for years. i owned a budget of them. got it from another local family dealership. we're losing that. we're losing that in this country. this idea that you can buy from people you know and trus that you know will take care of you. you don't ha

you know, i would hope one would look at that as an asset not a liability and say well, this is where we'd really like to main thainal market share. wal-mart did well going into the rural areas then urban areas with market advantage and here's a place you've got market advantage and i would hope you would give deaf trones those dealerships in general. thank you, machine. >> welcome back mr. chairman. i want to follow up to senator brownback's comments and one echoing my other colleague's concerns about the real human effects these decisions have had upon your dealer networks and their employees and families across the country, but also recognizing as senator brownback did the reality that in the last couple of years national autosales hit about 10 million units the economic reality means you've got a shrink. i also have to say at some level of someone who spent 20 years in the business sector if i would have ever naught my business life they would see a group of senators trying to micro manage an industry like gm gm or chrysler -- so if there was any more impetus to try to get the government out and your employees back into your business s

wal-mart was dumping employees on medicaid, what are they doing now? why? public opinion said let's do it and their employees are happier. even at a time when they have for applicants for every job, it's not exactly a buyer's market. so there are many businesses that want to do the right thing. i believe that. >> do you think those businesses are represented by lobbyists from washington? >> in d i do. -- indeed i do. there are some of some. who will say what a minute, i can't afford this. i will ask my employees to go when. the boss can take the cadillac plan and kick the other employees out. -- the boss cannot take the cadillac plan and to the other employees out. small businesses like to do this for their employees. the can afford it and hopefully and this plan will be able to. >> you said your own experience with your own illness the sheer luck she see the health industry up close and personal. what did you learn? >> i learned that john hopkins hospital is one of the preeminent medical delivery systems and the country. i had a bout with ammonia that kept me in the hospital couple of weeks. -- a bout with pneumonia and hospita

wal-mart on acid. you could go there and you would buy your 30 pound bags of tater tots, packages with 3,000 q-tips. which is 6,000 cotton swabs and one at ear end. i used to go to those places and who comes here shopping for condoms? because the quantities are just so massive. [laughter] there are a lot of optimistic people in america. and the other thing about those places is everyone's having the same conversation which is about how much money they're saving by buying in bulk. so you'll hear a couple say we should get 15,000 popsicles because we were thinking of having kids anyway. and that was one culture. and now we're in a different culture. and now washington really is the profit center, the political center. and working for "the new york times," i got one very good bit of piece of advice which was interview three politicians every day. and every day, i try to interview three different politicians. just so i know what's going on every day. and i can tell you they are all in one form or another emotional freaks. they have what i call logorhea dementia that they talk themselves they drive themselves insane. they are guaranteed to in