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we sent the atacms to them. >> well, i think. >> biden was a bit stymied, right?biden had this reflexive and obama had it as well, this reflexive like, don't get involved, but but actually get involved. and, you know, the red lines and we're going to help them, but we're not going to help them. and that really kind of split the baby. and i don't think was very effective in moving things along. but trump is just coming out and saying what he says he never wants to do, which is give it away and tell people in advance what he's going to do. to a very important point. ukraine is an ally. this is a way we're talking about an ally. and i can't imagine how heartbreaking and terrifying it must be for ukraine to hear this. so far, it's just words and rhetorically jd vance trump and secretary of defense hegseth, which always makes me laugh. um, have rhetorically for sure betrayed an ally with their words. we still have to see if anything can happen here that would actually put an end to this awful, awful, tragic war. >> so i'm really, really shocked by a lot of this from a