if you think about the early games that i played, pac-man, the adventure games, the atari games breakoutthey were , gender-neutral. when you got into these very combative games that were male centered, and more and more men got into the industry, to women it just started to feel unwelcoming. when you get that flywheel going where an industry becomes single-sex focused, it feels unwelcoming to women. so they might join it, but if they don't see other people around them -- we all know people look for role models. if they don't find it, they say, i want to get out. so we think that is probably what went wrong in the computer industry. emily: how did you encounter bias throughout your career? melinda: you know it is , interesting. i encountered it far more in industry than i did inside of microsoft. microsoft was growing by leaps and bounds when i got there. i felt like i had every opportunity open to me if i did well, if i performed well as a female. but in industry, i ran into it all the time. i would go present, and you could tell, like i would show up at a user group that is 95% male, an

kushner and the kushner companies, the fact that he separated himself, and the relationship with the atari'sught wrongcal position, on the side of a blockade with saudi arabia, bahrain, and the uae, currently much more closely aligned with the white house than qatar is. as we have seen in the machinations around michael cohen, there are people around qatar trying to cut business deals. not necessarily this one, but in other places. julia: we have to separate that. it looks like the kushner company finally has someone who can take the 49.5% interest in the deal. what is their ongoing involvement? it is not completely out, even if -- >> they will separately owned the retail at the base of the building. it will be interesting to see how brookfield and kushner would result the $1.2 billion mortgage on the building, and if we are trying to see -- qatari involvement are no, the question is, what does kushner company's equities stake look like. a complex story, brilliantly clear. three republicans joined all 49 democrats to pass a bill restoring net neutrality. was one ofn kennedy the gop outliers,

it was president reagan who said, these are tomorrow's fighter pilots the ones who are addicted to ataris been a rational that you'll get better in real life if you play these things. >> steve jobs, tim cook, all these folks have an advantage in limiting what their kids do. when you're in the gadget and social media business, that's inherently uncool if your parent does that so maybe it's an advantage. >> amish, thanks for joining us. >> thanks kelly. >> i'm still trying to get on board with it all. >>> we have an earnings alert. >> here's nuance communications. earnings missed by a penny. revenue at $518 million but the guidance it come in weaker than expected. the stock is down nearly 10%. this is a company that specializes in speech recognition technology, formally an apple supplier behind siri. back to you. >> so much i want to ask seema, so little time. >> in the commercial break. >> thank you. nuance is down 10%. >>> more earnings movers after-hours. we'll recap the big headlines after this break. so what else is new? how's your mother? umm..she's doing good. she needs more care th

i tell my kids, i can't beat you at an interactive game, but i can certainly get you at pacman and atari, right? because technology has changed. however, we're in a space where disruption is going to upset the apple cart. so, the regulatory conditions and criteria that we talk about today, when you look at machine learning, when you look at algorithmic bias, when you look at those areas, the cost of digital exclusion is going to come through big-data analytics and other things. so we have to be careful as we balance this conversation. the digital economy and the sharing economy are making up large proportions of our gdp. the future of work is dependent on the ability of people to be involved. the digital divide amplifies barriers when you live in communities where you don't have access to interface with new tools of technology. you want to talk about a cost to america, to actually not build 5g, not have ubiquitous wireline access, not be able to get it to rural communities. the cost to all of us will certainly be that they will be left behind. and i think, you know, again, seth, i kind o