she helped to create the first stand alone transmission company, otherwise known as atc and helped to cite a 210 mile extra high voltage line in wisconsin and minnesota. in addition to all of these credentials, i can also tell you what she eats for breakfast and grow in her vegetable garden because as you all know she is also my partner. i welcome her to our subcommittee. >> thank you, congresswoman. >> we welcome you and whenever you're ready, please begin. >> thank you, ranking member upton, and the members of the subcommittee, thanks for inviting me to appear at this hearing on the future of the grid, and my primary messages for today are number one, before a transmission grid can be cost effectively planned, congress must define the goals for that grid. number two, states with technical assistance from the regional and utility transmission engineers should plan the grid and cite transmission lines. three, congress should define the framework through which the states will design and cite the grid. if the states fail then it's appropriate for the federal government to step in and, f

she helped to create the first stand alone transmission company, otherwise known as atc ' to have her here to testify. i welcome her to our subcommittee. >> thank you, congresswoman, mr. chairman. remember about him and members of the subcommittee, and for inviting me to appear at this hearing on the future of the grid fifth. phelppatients plan to greta. cite transmission lines. three, congress should define the framework through which the states will design and cite the grid. if the states fail then it's appropriate for the federal government to step in and, four, congress should agree to do no harm by not selecting a specific grid designer technology and by not selecting a specific cost allocation. >> as to point number one, congress should define the goals. the renewable energy standards will define the generation portfolio that our nation will need to develop. with clear identification of ref and the carbon mandate, the states can be combin designing the transmission grid necessary for the generation portfolio. point number two, states should develop the plan and cite the lines. t