the highly controversial program by the atf. we've been following this story for months and it seems each and every week more information comes out that makes the scandal appear worse than previously thought. now the operation grew out of the atf's southwest border initiative called project gun runner which began under the bush administration with the intent of reducing violent crime associated with mexican criminal organizations operating in the u.s. and mexico by preventing those organizations from getting guns. but the ill-conceived program went off course, eventually empowering the very activity it initially was out to suppress. tonight more details of an ever unfolding story. >> in 2001 the atf gave them $21.9 million to expand the project called project gun runner. one of the off shoots was operation fast and furious which was run out of the phoenix, arizona field condition. it incorporated a new gunwalking strategy that allowed suspects to literally walk away with illegally purchased guns in hopes that the straw purchaser

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atf is pulling back.u to do that first. >> all i'm doing is communication. >> the thing is that god is coming here. there are seven seals. the prophesies says -- can i interrupt you for a minute? >> sure. >> we can talk theology, but right now. >> this is life, life and death. theology is life and death. >> yes. i agree with that. >> even with this 911 call, and people have been firing and people have been killed, david immediately begins talking about the seven seals, and i think that, in a literal as well as a more symbolic way, tells us all about waco. that if he wants to stop the fires, and he clearly should not be expected to suddenly get a cup of coffee and get his bible out. >> a cease-fire is finally negotiated. allowing shell shocked atf agents to remove the bodies of the dead and injured from the property. >> i was driving into atf headquarters and my cell phone rang and it was the command post. and the first question they asked is where are you, i said i'm about 10, 15 minutes out of the office

dealer who cooperated with atf in selling weapons to suspects. they refer to a third weapon, supposedly recovered at the terry murder scene, an sks rifle. >> reporter: on the broader question of who knew what when in fast and furious, issa says he would like to re-question attorney general eric holder. >> are you saying the attorney general knew a whole lot more about this than he testified to when he came before the congress? >> he clearly knew more than he said when he said he only first heard of this program a few weeks before. >> reporter: we filed freedom of information requests twice, but the fbi has rejected them in their entirety, both times saying releasing any information about terry's murder could jeopardize their investigation, now entering its 11th month. russ? >> mitchell: sharyl attkisson in washington, thank you very much. nearly 50 years after his "i have a dream" speech helped change the world, dr. martin luther king, jr. today again made history on the national mall. this morning a memorial to dr. king and that dream he continu

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it wasn't an atf operation. they were part of that. it was a joint operation in which dea knew more than atf >> reporter: u.s. intelligence officials consider the similoa cartel the most powerful drug cartel in the world and the latest bust, the most corporate cache of weapons seized in the history of ciudad jaurez. jenna: fox news is obtaining a letter minutes ago from congressman darrell issa to attorney general holder regarding the fast & furious investigation, the letter placing responsibility squarely on the a.g. n. part, it reads, and we have this small part for you, quote, the facts simply do not support any claim that fast & furious did not reach the highest levels of the justice department. actually, fast & furious did reach the ultimate authority in that part of the department, you. the time has come for you to come clean to the american public about what you knew about fast & furious, when you knew it, and who is going to be held accountable for failing to shut down a program that has already had deadly consequences, and wil

joining me now is a former atf agent and whistleblower. actually a current agent, you're just -- your badge was taken away because, you believe, you blew the whistle. >> that's correct. megyn: all right. i want to take the viewers back because you were one of the first people to shine a light on this program and on what was being done. you spent your life devoted to this business in the atf. tell us just, those o who aren't that familiar, what is so controversial about what the atf was doing. >> in terms of fast and furious? megyn: yes. >> we were disregarding our mandate. we were ignoring the laws that were given to us to enforce, and subsequently denied doing it and attempted to cover up our actions rather than stepping up, um, to this day. somebody, i'm still looking for anybody to step forward and say i own this, i take responsibility for this, i did this, it was wrong, and we're going to fix it. megyn: we certainly -- >> it's that simple. megyn: we certainly have not heard that out of the justice department. initially, they denied the

instead of tracing them, the atf lost them.can government about the weapons. and yet no one ever told the mexican government about the entire thing. the whole thing was predicated on being able to follow these things. no one told the mexicans. the u.s. is basically arming murderous mexican drug cartels and no one tells mexico. we're not talking about a dozen or even a couple hundred guns, we're talking about thousands of weapons. two of them -- two of those weapons turned up at the murder scene of a u.s. border agent. tonight the gop controlled house judiciary committee asked the white house to name a special council to determine whether the attorney general himself, eric holder, lied when asked about fast and furious. here's what he said back in may. >> when did you first know about the program officially i believe called fast and furious? to the best of your knowledge, what date? >> i'm not sure of the exact date. i probably heard about fast and furious for the first time over the last few weeks. >> however, keeping him hones

seized investigating at the request of the atf.are there any other instances where you were asked, in your department, your agency, was asked not to pursue cases that potentially have a conflict with fast and furious? >> in the wake of your investigation of fast and furious i have been made aware of those instances. i don't think i've been made aware of any others. >> let me go to testimony that you had last week. last week you were with senator grassley. you asked about communication with mr. burke regarding operation tested furious. question for senator grassley have you had communications? your response and i will read it quickly not about fast and furious. when agent terrie was killed was december 14th. i went a few days after to meet with fbi and attorneys who were actually going to look for the shooters. at that time nobody had done for in six of the guns and fast and furious was not mentioned. he went on to say i wanted to be sure those responsible were brought to justice and every doj researcher is brought to bear the topic

seized investigating at the request of the atf. are there any other instances where you were asked, in your department, your agency, was asked not to pursue cases that potentially have a conflict with fast and furious? >> in the wake of your investigation of fast and furious i have been made aware of those instances. i don't think i've been made aware of any others. >> let me go to testimony that you had last week. last week you were with senator grassley. you asked about communication with mr. burke regarding operation tested furious. question for senator grassley have you had communications? your response and i will read it quickly not about fast and furious. when agent terrie was killed was december 14th. i went a few days after to meet with fbi and attorneys who were actually going to look for the shooters. at that time nobody had done for in six of the guns and fast and furious was not mentioned. he went on to say i wanted to be sure those responsible were brought to justice and every doj researcher is brought to bear the topi

. >>> also ahead, new memos about the botched atf operation we've been covering fast and furious. that operation that lost track of thousands of firearms across the mexican border, tough questions for the attorney general tonight and the congressman behind the investigation. we're keeping them honest. later, the michael jackson death trial. three of dr. conrad murray's girlfriends took the stand today. that's right, he has three of them. he actually has four of them. what they said could mean trouble for the defense ahead. t. the afternoon tour begins with more pain and more pills. the evening guests arrive. back to sore knees. back to more pills.

it was a joint operation in which dea knew more than atf. >> chris: atf. alcohol, tobacco and fire arms. >> guest: these are all parts of the department of justice and we are beginning to see, not talking about eric holder, but the people in the top of justice were well briefed and commappeded and controlled the funding of this program. and any law enforcement person asked under oath comes back and said this is not the right way to do it. when did they know it was not the right way -- >> chris: are you subpoenas the attorney general to do it? >> guest: the judicial they have invited them to clear the record. now the question is, what did he know and how is he explaining why he gave that answer. >> chris: the attorney general sent you a letter friday afternoon and i want to go through those push back. he acknowledged several memos, you can see them, on these dates were sent to his office 10 months earlier and not the few weeks before he testified in may of 2011. he said and i want to put up the comment. i do not and cannot read them cover to cover and no is

what newly uncovered memos say about the botched atf operation called fast and furious.on to let firearms bought in america get across the border into mexico. the idea was to trace them to drug cartel leaders, but instead of tracing them, the atf lost track of them. they never even informed the mexican government about the weapons. to add insult to injury no one told the mexican about the whole thing. the whole thing was predicated on being able to follow these things but no one told the mexicans. the u.s. is charged with arming murderous drug cartels and no one tells mexico. we're talking about thousands of weapons. two of them, two of those weapons turned up at the murder scene of a u.s. border agent named brian terry. that's his photo. it's important we remember his name. tonight the gop controlled house judiciary committee asked the white house to name a special counsel to determine whether the attorney general himself eric holder lied when asked about fast and furious. this is what he said back in may. >> when did you first know about the program officially i believ

but they say that this was not the first time that atf tried this. >> all right.williams, our senior justice correspondent. pete, thanks very much. >>> all right, back to the campaign. he has gone from the godfather's pizza guy to the 999 guy to now top tier guy. herman cain is the latest 2012 it guy. take a look at this video from a 1994 presidential town hall. >> this man is raising a very important question in terms of employment. but what if all your competitors were just like you, wouldn't you be able to do it then? >> okay. first of all, mr. president, with all due respect, your calculation on what the impact would do quite honest sly is incorrect. >> mark block is the man behind the man, herman cain's campaign manager and chief of staff. he joins me now. that is footage right after herman cain challenged then president clinton on this. the first calls to herman cain to get involved in republican politics began. is that fair? >> exactly. exactly. chuck, thanks for having me on today. that was the beginning of the explosion of herman cain across the country.

. >>> for more information about the atf's fast and furious operation. during the 2009 operation the atf tried to track the flow of weapons into mexico by allowing intermediaries to buy guns. investigators lost track of many of the weapons and one was used last week to kill border patrol agent. >> no one is above the law. we don't have a king here. we need these people held accountable. >> a group of arizona sheriffs is asking for attorney general eric holder to step down. oversight committee wants to know how early holder knew about problems with that operation. >>> today egypt's prime minister is calling for a meeting between the head of the security forces among christian and muslim leaders. that is after violent protests left 24 dead and at least 24 wounded. christians clashed with muslims. at one point armored security vehicles sped for to the crowd. there are reports the armored vehicles ran over some of the protesters. >> the most serious threat of security is tampering unity and the support. the atmosphere provides the opportunity for the country

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he had helped atf arm them.now, all of those guns were going on the street, what do you think about? >> it really makes me sick. >> reporter: what is important to know is when all of this happened. it was under the bush administration three years before the better known operation under the obama operation, fast and furious. that case allegedly let thousands of weapons fall into the hands of mexican drug cartels. it's now the subject of two investigations. the fast and furious tactic of letting guns walk was only exposed after border patrol agent brian terry was murdered last december and at least two assault rifles from fast and furious were found at the scene. as for its predecessor, wide receiver, after more than three years, prosecutors finally quietly rounded up seven suspects last fall. no cartel leaders, just buyers, who critics say should never have been allowed to put one weapon on the street, let alone operate for years. >> my first day as an informant, if they had said, here is our plan, mike, we are g

now some are asking for eric holder to step down in the wake of the atf's fast and furious cartel guntion. >>> and an annual tradition is kicking off this morning in half moon bay. alley is live where a big prize is on the line. >> reporter: good morning. it is happening this morning in half moon bay. we are on main street where there are pumpkin grower whose have come here to bring in their giant pumpkins. you can see there are growers here with big pumpkins in trailers and truck beds. first i want to show you what will probably be the heaviest pumpkin ever weighed. he is a pumpkin grower from santa rosa. take a look at this thing. how big do you think this is? >> the world record currently is 1810 pounds. and it is going to weigh a little bit more than that. it is damaged. it had a soft spot on the bottom of it when we lift tornado to get it on the pallet yesterday. the soft spot is a hole now that goes into the cavity so it won't be an official world record but still it is most likely going to be the heaviest pumpkin. >> reporter: it is not eligible for the prize but you are still

another person involved in 2007 was bill hoover, a deputy atf director in washington.helped to develop fast & furious, but he 22 too wanted to shut down the hernandez operation and prohibit good additional gones going to mexico until he was briefed about it and the u.s. attorney's office was fullo board. but he saw a possible reward and risk, saying, i'm quoting -- this is a major investigation with huge political implications and a great potential if all goes l. we must also be prepared if it doesn't go well. these documents were leaked by the justice department to help the administration deflect the ongoing criticism, largely from republicans about fast & furious. i spoke to an agent who handled this case and said it was a controlled delivery, the mexican police did know about it and were supposed to interdict on the other side of the border. that fell apart, after that, it was shut down. why it was brought up again in fast & furious? that's yet to be seen. >> keep digging. the state department has confirmed direct talks between the scpuz iran in the involvement in t

it only focused on the atf director, kennel son. asks for specific documents related to murder of border patrol agent brian terry to resolve the conflicting accounts on type and number of guns found at the scene and where those came from. there is evidence that an fbi informant bought those guns in a deal set up by a dea informant. the subpoena also seeks to clarify the relationship with the white house. justice department has claimed this was a law enforcement operation, period. others however suspect a political motive, that some in the white house wanted the guns to cross the border to prove a case that u.s. dwuns guns are the predominant source of violence in mexico in order to justify a ban or limit on the sale of assault weapons here. the subpoena demands any and all communication from a dozen top assistant and deputy attorney generals including the attorney general himself, eric holder. this could answer what holder knows. for instance, all wiretaps taps are approved by the chief of the criminal division, lanny brewer. agents

they are dependent upon their license from the atf and then they have to be complied with the atf.e have a body that gives them a reason to exist but can also retract that. the facts are wrong. mr. holder, he failed to realize that over 700 guns were purchased by just one individual in this case on food stamps, andand over half of a mn dollars transpired here. it was reported numerous times. i am not from law-enforcement. i have a health-care provider, i am a healer, but this does not make sense. when something goes wrong, there is an accountability personally and from the top down. the option of not knowing this, that means there are vigilante'' out there. and that is even worse. that is incompetence. do you think there is anything to james' tweet here -- guest: that is exactly right. to bypasser seems everything that we want to keep and do in a proper fashion. there is a proper mechanism to congress, but itthrough seems that all they do is bypassed. we do not pick and choose the laws we uphold inviolate. maybe we got confused on what is the law and what is not a lot. you cannot t

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this was a rogue atf -- not even big atf, but a local atf office.obody in washington really knew about it. since that time we have had evidence come out there were at least a few people in the white house that knew about it. there has been information that's come out that has shown eric holder did know about it. not just from public information. so, you know, i think because they have been so not forthcoming for so long, that this is going to get war for them. martha: it seems there is tension in their relationships with a couple people who questioned them on this and one reporter who was cited on the laura ingraham show. this is interesting. >> they were literally screaming at you? >> yes. well, the d.o.j. woman was yelling at me. he literally screamed at me. martha: what's that all about, brad? >> this is about a coverup. usually the coverup is worse than the crime. it's the opposite. the crime the government has been come police -- has been complicit in is worse than the coverup. we have seen there are inconsistencies. certainly if the white hous

we have been -- he -- the former acting director of the atf led to us believe that there is from they unacceptable. that is a very serious charge. we want to give the attorney general an opportunity to respond to that. but there are others that have not given us the can dorland that you are supposed to. the liaison from the attorney general's office who said they never let giuseppes walk thatthy had nothing to do with that. then you have the security of homeland security come in my quick and she says she never talked to eric holder and says it was an atf operation. we had an agent also assigned to the operation. she said she couldn't talk to attorney general holder because he immediately put an investigator general in place. that is not true. the death of ryan try was december 14. they didn't put an inspector general in place until february 28. what happened in the nearly three months? that is why we have the department of homeland security. we have a list that demands some answers because we have dead agents and thousands of weapons purposely put into the hands of bad guys. it is no

the operation involved atf agents allowing and tracking illegal sales of guns that would likely end up in the hands of mexican drug cartel members. controversy over "fast and furious" erupted when weapons found at american and mexican murder scenes were traced back to that program. >>> after treading water for 20 hours, a 4-year-old girl and three other people were rescued by the coast guard off the florida keys. but an 80-year-old woman drowned yesterday before rescue could reach her. the rescue were parts of a group of eight on a boat that sank around noon saturday. three others were picked up by passers-by. >>> a quick death for quickster. netflix is rewinding its plan to split its dvd by mail and streaming video services. it has decided to keep them together at netflix.com. one name, one website. a few weeks ago netflix announced it would rebrand its dvd by mail service quickster. at the time, it was also planning on adding video games to that service. a spokesman now says the plan on video game rentals is to be determined. netflix' ceo says the company was moving too fast in this

our agents there say they were never told that the atf was flooding mexico with weapons.b stand state cover-up and perjury charges. fbi and dea informants are alleged to have helped provide the money to buy the guns that the atf was tracking and never told them. you know, there are also some key dates in this, megyn. for instance, when the u.s. attorney's office assured the owner of a lone wolf gun store we are stopping all the weapons as soon as they leave your store, documents show that was not true. the subpoena wants to know what was being said internally at the u.s. attorney's office at the time when they were telling the gun store owner one thing, but they were doing another. back to you. megyn: william, thank you. the house committee's ranking democrat, congressman elijah couplens, blasted the subpoena saying, quote, it's a deep sea fishing expedition. it demands tens of thousands of pages of highly sensitive law enforcement and national security materials. we'll bring you new developments on this as they happen. >>> fox news alert, the white house just announcing

atf is being told guns aren't geithnering to the bad guys. the whistle blower came forward when realized guns are getting to the bad guys. this is not about an operation that was supposed to trace guns. this is about justice department knowing and this is where the american people have a right to know more, knowing that these guns were deliberately intended to end up in the hands of the drug cartels without any kind of traceability except if you find the gun at the scene of a crime. that is the reason that this is a felony stupid and i use the word felony deliberately program. this should be criminal to let criminals have thousands of deadly weapons. >> chris: i have to point out because holder does in his letter the bush administration had a similar operation called operation wide receiver that also he says let guns walk. >> eric holder came in wanting to indict people from that administration. i think his standard of well, the other administration did it, too, is not so good. from what we can discover from wide receiver and we have subpoena

according to police it began before atf's officer's role possessed saying there was a suspicious person inside. the suspect was passed out or sleeping outside of a hotel room. they made several attempts to weaken much. officer >> they were able to get the suspect to come to. he immediately presented a threat by grabbing a weapon that he was in possession of and at that point, officers fear for their lives and fired on the suspect. >>nichole: a hotel guest was staying nearby. police shot the suspect several times. he was taking to local hospital where he was treated and is expected to survive. investigators stayed on the same for hours in a new-line hotel guests and witnesses trying to piece together what initially led to the shooting. >>louisa: a murder suspect remains on loose. stephen ruiz has been on the run since the shooting of a hell's angel member of the shooting earlier this month. this was the scene as san jose police served a warrant at a house in stockton. police used tear gas the ruiz was nowhere to be found. >>officer: the reason we used that rule was to avoid confrontation

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investigation led to the seizure of firearms, stolen vehicles and narcotics agents from the bureau atfalong with state and local law enforcement. the attorney general with will release more details about this operation this afternoon during a news conference in gilroy ii >> the family of a suicidal man who drowned off a beach in alameda, while authorities watched has now failed filed a claim against the city and county. his family says first responders have should done more to help after he weighedded in the waters. the claim -- claim was filed yesterday. they are asking for unspecified damages. fire officials said they didn't rescue him because they didn't have the proper train. that training program has been reinstated. >>> students at alhambra high were greeted by extra police patrols and other stepped up security measures today in response to a vague unverified threat the district received earlier this week by e-mail. police say the extra security is an abundance of caution and they stress they haven't found anything that would lend credibility to the threat in washington a how pan

>> well, representative, as you know, it was an atf operation. >> how is it that you can make a claimborder is now more secure than ever, and yet the obama administration purposely allows literally 2,000 guns to be released knowing that they're going to go to mexico with hundreds of people killed by those weapons, two dead u.s. agents, and yet you don't even know if we've detected even one of those guns. n., on january 14th you did detect somebody in new mexico. there were eight guns found, they didn't even run a trace on them, and you let those guns go into mexico. i find that absolutely stunning. and for you to have two dead agents and have never had a conversation with everything holder about fast and furious is totally unacceptable. >> no one takes the deaths of agents more seriously than i, and also that one of the reasons that we have not directly dealt with the attorney general on this is he very quickly and appropriately put this matter in the hands of the inspector general. megyn: joining me now to discuss what we just witnessed there is jay alan seculo, american counsel for

because it was an atf operation? >> the two incidents you refer to reveal when they picked up guns, and ran them, atf came back and said these are part of a larger operation, stand down. after the second incident, that matter was taken by the -- to the assistant u.s. attorney, which is common. the assistant u.s. attorney said that the atf operation would take precedence. >> so, was of the department of homeland security of the policy to allow guns to go into mexico if they were involved in fast and furious. i am looking for a yes or no. >> no. >> how can you claim the border is more secure than ever, yet the obama administration purposely allowed two thousand guns to be released, and knowing they would go to mexico, yet you do not know if we have detected even one of them? on january 14, you did detect someone in new mexico. there were eight guns found, you did not run a trace on them. i find that stunning. for you to have two dead agents and to have never had a conversation about fast and furious is totally unaccept

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