and atf begins negotiating with koresh.concern, to get the children out of the compound. >> everything's okay. just you and me are talking. and that's the main thing because you care for people and you're sincere and honest. >> i care about my father. >> that's right. >> the feds are worried about another jonestown, where 900 members of a religious cult died in a suicide pact in 1978 with cyanide-laced kool-aid. a serious concern when koresh quotes the book of revelations with its prophecy of violence in the final days. >> so here we are in the day of the lord. all the prophets talk about the great and dreadful day of the lord. when god will make inquisition for blood. >> that's not today, david. >> oh, it is. >> trying to find common ground, the agent talks about huge stockpiles of meals ready to eat, mres. >> what's your favorite one? i ate one of those yesterday. >> beef stew. >> beef stew? >> that's the only good one there. >> i like the apple sauce they have. >> oh, yeah, that's good. >> reporter: surreal considering t

and atf begins negotiating with koresh. overriding concern, to get the children out of the compound. >> everything's okay. just you and me are talking. and that's the main thing because you care for people and you're sincere and honest. >> i care about my father. >> that's right. >> the feds are worried about another jonestown, where 900 members of a religious cult died in a suicide pact in 1978 with cyanide-laced kool-aid. a serious concern when koresh quotes the book of revelation with its prophecy of violence in the final days. >> so here we are in the day of the lord. all the prophets talk about the great and dreadful day of the lord. when god will make inquisition for blood. >> that's not today, david. >> oh, it is. >> trying to find common ground, the agent talks about their huge stockpiles of meals ready to eat, mres. >> what's your favorite one? i ate one of those yesterday. >> beef stew. >> beef stew? >> that's the only good one there. >> i like the apple sauce they have. >> oh, yeah, that's good. >> surreal consid

he ended up buying guns from an atf undercover agent.t to jail, came out, a and flipped and is an informant for them. we altered his voice and his image to protect his life because he's on the street right now. i sat down and talked to him about how it happens and i started with the day he got caught. >> i gave ten ounces of cocaine, and he gave me the guns. >> he gave you the guns? >> yeah. >> why did you want the guns? for what? >> they were automatic weapons, had silencers on them. and that's what i was looking for. >> did you ever kill anyone? >> that i can't answer. >> right now, the people that are in your circle, are they illegally trafficking guns? >> yes. the people i know in florida, north carolina, you can get guns anywhere. >> how do they do it? >> they have people that are elderly, husband and wife or husband and girlfriend, in a motor home. and they have guns in the motor home. and they drive it to new york. >> in a motor home? an elderly husband and wife hide guns in their motor home and drive them up from florida to new y

that prohibits the atf of refusing gun dealer license which makes it easier to dealings involvementate transactions. who could this help but those who are doing something wrong or illegal? >> right, it makes it easier to sell a gun. that's the whole thing. it's not to own a gun. it's to sell a gun. >> john: congress made crime legal. >> it is therefore not a crime. they solved a crime by not making things criminal any longer. >> john: is there good news to any of this? i don't want to vote again. >> if we're so depressed we want to kill ourselves guns are readily available. >> the big picture of this, i don't actually think this is true the whole amendment they want to say we want to be prepared so that when the crazy--when the government gone wild happens but they got tanks. in 30 years we're going to be looking at drones. >> john: yes, i need my bush master when they come in with their tanks, drones and weaponnized anthrax. and by the way, barack obama it's on you. you can sign it or put up a fight. my panel sticks with me as we go to the dark side of my own twitter account. you d

and now the other guy from the atf. tell me about the informant. we wanted to hear first hand from someone who is involved in the gun trade who has been a middle fan. we found that man. you will hear from a man in a moment. we concealed his voice and image. he is on the street right now doing this. i talked to him about how it happens. i started with the day that he got caught. did you ever kill anyone? right now, the people that are in your circle, are they illegally trafficking guns? >> how do they do it? in a motor home, an elderly husband and wife hide guns in the motor home and drive them up from florida to new york. what is an average load? how much would they make? >> so they call the guns fire crackers. so what if your friends ask them to get guns. what should they be. >> what about stronger gun laws. >> it won't help why? >> he told me that the most he's made off of a tip is $5,000. he tells me he has never given them a tip. we talked about the iron pipeline. the price is highest right here sitting in new york. this is where i find it so f

>>why hasn't the atf had an active director in over six years?uh, it hasn't been confirmed by congress. >>why do you think that is? >>that's some political areas that i'm not allowed to go into. ficking investigation, code named fast and furious, made national news and emboldened the agency's critics. >>an agent with the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms claims the agency has a policy that is actually putting guns in the cartel's hands. (vo)as part of the fast and furious investigation, atf agents in phoenix allowed suspected smugglers to purchase weapons in hopes of tracking them to the cartel buyers, only they lost track of the guns allowing thousands of assault rifles to make their way across the border into the hands of the drug cartels. (vo)at the open carry picnic in wisconsin, the atf's fast and furious operation was the major topic of conversation. >>the atf is arming those people down in mexico, according to what i've been seeing on the news. so, maybe the atf should put stricter gun control on themselves and leave us, the united

, a man named todd jones who has been acting as deputy director of the atf for five years. president obama asked congress to stop hindering law enforcement, and he called congress out for allowing anybody to be confirmed as director of the atf for six years now. this week we got news that even that part of what president obama confirmed on guns, even just asking the director of the law enforcement agency that is concerned with federal gun laws, yeah, republicans in congress may just oppose that too. they don't want anybody running that after six years. republicans increasingly make the case that we should not have any knew gun laws, even after sandy hook because we do not need new gun laws, what we need is better enforcement of the laws we have. we don't do a good job of enforcing for gun laws we have. they have made that case over and over again, they made it again at the public hearings. at the same time the continued unwillingness to confirm anybody to run the agency that is enforcing the gun laws we have. they have been stopping anyone from running the agency since 2006

, a man named todd jones who has been acting as deputy director of the atf for five years. president obama asked congress to stop hindering law enforcement, and he called congress out for allowing anybody to be confirmed as director of the atf for six years now. this week we got news that even that part of what president obama confirmed on guns, even just asking the director of the law enforcement agency that is concerned with federal gun laws, yeah, republicans in congress may just oppose that too. they don't want anybody running that after six years. republicans increasingly make the case that we should not have any knew gun laws, even after sandy hook because we do not need new gun laws, what we need is better enforcement of the laws we have. we don't do a good job of enforcing for gun laws we have. they have made that case over and over again, they made it again at the public hearings. at the same time the continued unwillingness to confirm anybody to run the agency that is enforcing the gun laws we have. they have been stopping anyone from running the agency since 2006

taken authority away from organizations like the cdc to do studies, taken away the authority of the atf to do its job to go after the bad gun dealers, only 1 percent of them, but they are responsible for 57 percent of the crime guns in this country, so much that has to be done. now last saturday we had a gun buy back in san mateo county. with we today is captain sam gallagher. if you want to talk to him about the success of that buy back, i'm sure he will be happy to accommodate. it opened at 10 am, there were people lining up at 8 am. they waited in line from 10 am to 3pm to turn in their guns. there were more than 680 guns turned over, 338 handguns, 371 long guns, 24 assault weapons. one of the assault weapons that was turned over was called a street sweeper. i saw a street sweeper in action today. it is devastating what that instrumentality can do. it mows down people. that was collected in a county that has the second lowest crime rate in the state. so i, for one, think there is much, much more we must do to address this issue and i think the american people are ready to do it. than

we make a referral to atf whether or not is a denial. i'm not certain how we do it. the paper -- it is probably done automatically. youll have to get back to on that, the procedures, what happens to the hard copy sitting in the hands of the seller. >> again, at a different hearing, we heard from the justice department -- obviously, decisions are made -- in 2010, out of the 76,000 miles, only 13 were convicted. at one point, -- at what point -- the ig said it is a matter of not having evidence -- it seems to me that the paperwork would be the evidence. if you could get back to me, i appreciate that. i would like to thank you for responding -- for how you are responding to the increased demand for these background checks. i want to commend you for doing that in times of economic stress in the department. >> the only thing i would add is the legislation is passed to increase the number of background checks we have to do as a result of legislation, we spend about $100 million a year on this background check. we would probably have to double that depending on what legisla

even the owner knows this is not right and atf apparently doesn't get it. did get it but they allowed criminals to smuggle 2,000 guns to mexico. homeland security even had an agent on the task force and he warned supervisors they were violating policy. the border patrol even stopped guns at border. each time the atf and u.s. attorney's office in arizona told them to back off. the ig report said word of the wrongdoing never left arizona. it exxon rates i.c.e. director john morton and homeland security secretary janet minneapolis. in many ways this report is whitewash. it does not name names it makes the i.c.e. arizona agent look inept. secondly, dozens knew at the beginning this violated policy if not the law but no one was willing to put their career on the line to stop it until brian terry died and atf agent john dodson blue l blew the whistle. uma: such an unfortunate situation, william, thank you very much. jon: there are signs that the president's honeymoon is so over. we told but the president's poll numbers taking a dive. new data could suggest why. l

. >> eliminando los apgos en efectivos podrán circular mnas rapidom por lo tanto esperan apurar el atftregado el proyecto de reforma migratoria. >> y por qué ciertos condados podráin ser los culpbales de que las carceles esten super pobladas, le decimos maya adelante. >> xpx >>> hola ya es un hecho el ante proyecto de la reforma migratoria y será entregado en abril. >> pero los senadores no son los nunicos que también la cámara de representantes presenta un proyecto. >> el grupo bipartidista de 8 senadores asegura que trabaja en el proyecto para presentarlo en abril. >> se junatn frecuentemente ha habido más de 50 hora en reuniones y más de 120 horas a nivel de equipo. >> entretanto en la cámara de representantes no hay proyectos y uno de los congresistas claves no confirmo fechas. >> continuamos con las conversaciones y habalmso de reformar este situaciones roto. >> han decidido a aumentar a 120 mil las visas, de acuerdo ocn la cámara de comercia hbalna de cua nto se le pagaria a las personas de este tipo. >> el grupo de los 8 ha trabajado muy duro, dicen que tendrán algo después de s

. >> reporter: now, the fbi and atf and texas rangers have not one but two cases on their hands. the fear now is that these murders are somehow connected. but, at this point, authorities will not say if they are related. now, we're expecting a lot more information to come out later this morning, when investigators hold their first press conference since discovering the bodies. dan? >> telling us more about what is truly an extraordinary situation, john schriffen reporting from texas this morning, thank you. >>> let's bring now in abc's senior justice correspondent pierre thomas, how rare is this kind of violence directed at senior public officials? >> good morning, dan. while we have a lot of violence in this country, thousands of murders a year, it's very unusual to see public officials kills in this manner. it's early in this investigation. police don't know if these deaths are tied to the previous murderm but if prosecutors are being executed this is a nightmare scenario. that's why you see the atf and fbi actively assisting. >> now, after the first prosecutor was ambushed and

and i failed to report the atf was highly involved in that investigation also. it wasn't just san francisco police department, but that is one of the major concerns that we have is the flow of guns from another states coming into california. >> that's what chief is testifying? >> yes. >> okay. thank you. >> mr. kingsly. >> thank you for your report and for being here. regarding the collaboration of various safety participants in this hub on sixth and market -- is this the first time, is this the first collaborative safety hub we've created in san francisco? or are there others... >> this is not a new concept to the police department. we're always looking in collaboration with our other public safety partners, not only with local but federal too. but this is one of the first we 've opened up on the sixth street corridor, which is a very challenging area. so we want to bring all the assistance that people may need on sixth street to prevent them from committing crimes. >> it's a terrific idea. i just wasn't aware that this was something that we had actively in pla

and atf does go out to attempt to retrieve the pope and. .- to retrieve the weapon >> i have one other issue, because it came up at another hearing i attended. is last week the department of generalinspector spoke on the encouraging private businesses to invest in their own network security and to properly report incidents of cyber intrusions'. are you working closely and with the private sector? are they good partners with regard to sharing information that could help the fbi learned more about cyber threats and vulnerability? if you could catch us up to date on what are the challenges? is it working? what else can be done? >> in the wake of september 11 in the counter-terrorism the realm we have found for us to be successful, we have to work cooperatively with state and local law enforcement. we have established joint terrorism task forces throughout the country. when it comes to the cyber arena, the key partner is the private sector. we have made headway with the private sector, but there are together thatking we have to overcome. one is liability, sharing information. that the issu

but they were told by the atf to back off.s that neither john morton, head of ice or homeland security secretary janet napolitano knew about fast and furious until border agent brian terry died. terry's family said today they're disappointed that the investigation did not name names or describe responsibility nor chastise the agent in charge for failing to shut down the operation. shepard? >> shepard: wism la jeunesse in los angeles. william, thanks. rescuer are searching for survivors amid the rebel after a building collapses and kills three people. it's our top story around the world in 80 seconds. china. state media report construction crews in the eastern city were finishing the fourth floor when it suddenly came crashing down. burying 14 workers under piles of heavy steel and debris. firefighters pulled several men to safety. no word on what caused the collapse. australia. a tornado tore apart several homes and trailer parks during a violent hailstorm in the southeast. >> the hail stones were golf size. and you could actu

local officers collaborated with federal agents from the fbi, atf and the dea. >> we can't do it alone. so in addition to all of our federal, state and local partners that have joined us today, we have commitments from them to be here as long as necessary so that they can help us reduce violent crime in oakland. >> officers are still looking for at least 7 more suspects. >>> well, police in san jose have shut down a massive tent city. hundreds of homeless are being told to leave and as kpix 5 reporter anne makovec tells us, officials are offering alternatives but not everyone is taking them. >> reporter: they were given 72 hours' warning that the city was coming in to move them out. people like scott who says he has been homeless for a year. >>> not going into great detail, just bad decisions. and it doesn't take long. i tell you what. >> reporter: a few dozen people remained in this encampment near spring street and west heading by the deadline this morning. >> they pose a serious health risk, damage to the environment and a risk to the people living here and the residents surrounding

marshals, the dea and atf, the area targeted mostly surrounded oakland and the surrounding communitiesut other areas as well. high profile officials including the oakland mayor, police chief, state attorney and u.s. attorney all part of this press conference today going on as we speak. the results more than a dozen agencies served at least 21 warrants this morning in what is described as one of the biggest gang and violent sweeps in oakland. this is part of operation cease- fire which you mentioned us an anti-crime anti-violence initiative, the raids netted 18 arrests and confiscated firearms and targeted a known gang called the case gang and money team. they said they were successful in disbanding them, some are charged with attempted murder, robbery and home invasions, this started in the early morning houses in gear raiding their houses. the state attorney said planning for it actually started last november. >> we fulfilled a promise today that i made to this community back in october. and that is we will use every legal means possible to identify those that are involved in violent

marshals, atf, the whole spectrum and we are actively pursuing this. we're working very hard to ensure the public safety of the county and i want to assure the citizens that we are doing that. and we'll continue to strive to do that. we do have a tip line set up. the number is 1-877-847-7522. or they can submit a tip to the kaufman county tip line or crimestoppers. and that's basically what we know at this time. >> sheriff, what are you doing actively? >> we're not going to get into that on security matters what we're doing on that. just to say that we are taking precautions to protect other elected officials in the county. [ inaudible question ] >> is this the work of white supremacist gang, do they have people here? >> i'm not in on that at all. i have no indication of that. >> do you believe it is definitively connected to the murder of mark hasse? >> pardon? >> do you believe the murders yesterday are definitively connected to the murder of mark hasse? >> i can't say that, no. we have nothing indicating that for sure. >> will the prosecutors office

we make a referral to atf whether or not is a denial. i'm not certain how we do it. the paper -- it is probably done automatically. i will have to get back to you on that, the procedures, what happens to the hard copy sitting in the hands of the seller. >> again, at a different hearing, we heard from the justice department -- obviously, decisions are made -- in 2010, out of the 76,000 miles, only 13 were convicted. at one point, -- at what point the ig said it is a matter of not having evidence -- it seems to me that the paperwork would be the evidence. if you could get back to me, i appreciate that. i would like to thank you for responding -- for how you are responding to the increased demand for these background checks. i want to commend you for doing that in times of economic stress in the department. >> the only thing i would add is the legislation is passed to increase the number of background checks we have to do as a result of legislation, we spend about $100 million a year on this background check. we would probably have to double that depending on what legis

the best explanation that i have heard has been from an atf agent who said it would be like after 9-11 saying we're going to screen all air passengers at every airport in 60 percent of the states. it doesn't make sense. and it's not an inconvenience. i was telling the speaker on the way in i got a text message from a san francisco resident who i've known all of his life and he's known me all of his life. i know his parents, they live around the corner from me in st. helena he wanted to be here and he said i want you to know i fully support the universal background checks for anybody who buys a gun. and you know it's not inconvenient, you know, it works because a few years ago, mike, i bought a gun from you and we walked down the street -- we drove down the street to steve's hardware in downtown st. helena, i filled out the gun, he filled out the paperwork, he paid $23 or $24 dollars, in a few days he came in, he knew i had not used the gun in a crime, he was not mentally adjudicated or a criminal and he walked away with the gun. it works, it's an easy thing to do and if anybody says it

we got that over to atf and our gun squad and they took care of that issue right away. yeah, they were dummies, but the way he was describing them on the internet. there was a guy from russia that was on there talking about how he wanted them. i mean, it's big. i mean, it's crazy what some of these people do. the other things, too -- the other thing is when you do set up your facebook -- i have to tell but this, too. you can't just set up a facebook account and leave it and friend one person and hope to get more friends to come to you. you have to make it intriguing to them. how do we making intriguing? hot chick, exactly right. and there, if you just go to google search and put in, you know, hot girl, graffiti girl, we have one that has -- a picture -- was it your presentation that had the picture of the girl with that tagging on the side of her? there's tons of that out there. just grab one. just drop it out where her face ain't showing. once they see that picture right there, woo, i like it. you're going to get more and more that way. you also get some other things t

and i think we - fbi, atf, other agencies - i think we facilitated that master plan. we didn't nail him on the cross, we burned him to the ground. >> michael: this is "the war room." i'm michael shure. senator rand paul took to the floor today for an honest to goodness old fashioned style talking filibuster it was a repetitive rambling and self-serving gesture that . . . well also made some sense. [♪ theme music ♪] >> michael: stormy weather rolled into washington today adding just one more blast of holt air in a town that pretty much runs on it but in true d.c. fashion the rough weather was full of sown and furry, but signified, well not much. first there was rand paul hair all tussled launching himself into the eye of the storm over drones and then refusing to leave. and finally there was the actual winter storm which followed congress's lead and didn't do much before it left town and head straight for the tropics. first up, though drone-relateds. the tea party wing of the senate decided today was the day to prosecute the president's drone policy. it started with te

and the nra must love this last one, the new law presents atf from using data collection to daughterdraw conclusion to gun crime. in essence see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil. these gun measures could have come off the books at some point but they're president obama's signature away from becoming permanent. if i sound dispirited, this is on the heels of the democratic led decision not to push the assault gun ban. biden spent much of the speech defending the assault weapons ban of 1994 which has now expired. >> for all those who say we shouldn't and can't ban assault weapons, for all those who say that politics is too hard, how can they say that? when you take a look at those 20 beautiful babies, and what happened to them. >> michael: as much as congress falters, those memories from to you san totucson today row are to aurora, and newtown. >> what congress has to decide whether it's popular or whether think know in their hearts that it's the right thing to do. we grew up learning this lesson. we're on this earth together. we have to protect each other and we have to protect our fel

secret service, our cia, our fbi, our atf, all of the men and women who are incredibly putting their lives on the liven let's go the middle east to the muslim brotherhood who are trying to kill us every day. >> neil: i can even see if you're in the muslim brotherhood or any group who wants u.s. money you say and do whatever it takes to get the money. so they've gone from wanting israel wiped off the face of the map, saying we have no real problem with them breathing the same air. so they kind of assuage our concerns a. bit but you can clearly see it's to get the money, and this has been sort of like -- modus operandi with a lot of countries and governments that have come to expect if you want money from washington, act like you're saying things of interest to washington. you needn't mean but but if you're saying the right thing, that's all that matters. >> that's 100% correct. but again, it still goes back to what breaks my heart -- and it does. it just -- it's very, very disconcerting and that is, again, that the secret service, cia, fbi, they're not being taken care of. they are fa

released this report concludes that atf and the u.s.s office, bill, always stepped in and overrode immigration and customs enforcement. after looking at 6,000 e-mails again, that napolitano did not know about it, even though the u.s. attorney in arizona, he led this investigation, and when she was with him a few days after brian terry died, they never told her about this investigation. that they knew what was happening. that guns were crossing the border. they knew it was wrong. they said it was scary. never told her. bill: this just gets deeper. william la jeunesse on the story in los angeles. thank you, william. heather: coming up tragedy hits the u.s. marines. a deadly shooting at the marine base. a live report from the scene and a former fbi director looks at the case. >> a brave girl helps to bust burglars breaking into her home. how she outwitted the bad guys, have you heard? heather: good for her? [ anouncer ] ihop in time square to compare new griddle-melts to your usual breakfast sandwich. a lot more flavor. [ anouncer ] ihop's

the "denver post" called the head of the denver division of the atf to get some context on this new arrest, this new development in the case. he told them, quote, there is little to no punishment for being a straw purchaser, gang members know it, drug trafficking organizations know it. when democrats moved some elements of president obama's gun reform through the judiciary committee a few weeks ago, it would have made it a felony and bigger deal, that measure passed out of committee with all the democratic votes on the committee but only one republican, iowa senator chuck grassley, all the other senators on the committee voted against strengthening the penalties for straw purchases, penalties for people who buy a weapon because they can pass the background check and knowingly pass the weapon off to someone who cannot pass the background check. these are the senators who voted against that in committee, orrin hatch, lindsey graham, ted cruz, jeff flake and jeff sessions all voted against strengthening the penalties for straw purchases. also today, there has been a huge release of new inform

your interest in us and we appreciate the help that we've had from the texas rangers, the fbi, the atfice and law enforcement officials working on this case. >> how do law enforcement sort of start? where is the starting point? because it could just be a plethora of perhaps former, former criminals who could be suspects. i guess, where did the investigation really start. obviously, with the evidence in hand, but then beyond that. >> no, they have a lot of forensic evidence and i'm sure they have more now. if they have to, i'm sure they're going through all the files of the previous cases that district attorney and assistant district attorney have been involved in. >> okay. >> dr. william fortner, the mayor of kaufman, texas, thank you. >> thank you. we have to remember that god is in control and all of us should be praying for a resolution to this sipuatituation. >> thank you for your time this morning. >>> the federal government is failing to give post-9 /11 veterans accurate and timely care. details emotional and physical problems that troops deployed in iraq and afghanistan face. th

that individual was an undercover agent with the federal atf. >> leonard offered to pay a hit man $20,000k at a kansas city gas station discovered a strange sight in the trash can. she found a box. inside a pair of eyeballs looking back at her. these are the men police think dumped the eyeballs next to the gas pumps in a medical cooler. investigators determined the eyeballs are not human but they don't know where they came from or why someone would throw them out. >> pretty freaky. the clerk called it "freaky" and said it was "the strangest workday she ever had." that would qualify. >> you think? no question where they were going or coming from. police called eye banks in the area to see if anybody was expecting a delivery or eyeballs missing. none of the above. >> there were no eyewitnesses to the situation. >> buh-dum. new jersey powerball winner, pedro quezada, owes thousand of dollars in unpaid child support. >> hard one to get through. >> the warrant was delivered to his department yesterday. the sheriff's department says he owes $29,000. he has not revealed much about any financial

the texas rangers are here, the fbi's here, the atf is here, but the main -- the first killing two monthse investigation has been under the control of our local police department, and then this one will be under the control of the sheriff's department. >> mayor william fortner of kaufman, texas. thank you so much for joining us on an easter morning and such a tragic one for your area. we appreciate your time. we are expecting a news conference within the next couple of hours. we will bring that to you live when it happens. >>> but when we return, the man who pray for our neiation's leaders. >> these are patriots. these are people who seriously desire the best for this nation. >> democrats and republicans thank me for that prayer. ♪ [ watch ticking ] [ engine revs ] come in. ♪ got the coffee. that was fast. we're outta here. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] we all have something neatly tucked away in the back of our mind. a secret hope. that thing we've always wanted to do. it's not about having dreams, it's about reaching them. ♪ an ally for real possibilities. aarp. find tools and

. >> to what extent are federal authorities involved, the fbi, atf? >> it's interesting, because as soon as we heard about the murders of mike mcclelland and his wife cynthia, it was clear law enforcement's presence at that murder scene was very intense. they cordoned off the neighborhood. you couldn't make it on to the street where they lived. you saw fbi agents. texas rangers and state police also a very quick presence there on that -- at that murder investigation. so it's clear that even though officials here aren't saying on the record that these cases are connected, the presence and the way you've seen these people viz pli respond to these cases it really seems to kind of suggest that sglp ed lavendera, thank you so much from kaufman county, texas. we'll check back with you as information warrants. >>> christians all over the world celebrating easter today. ♪ >> in rome, pope francis delivered his first easter blessing since becoming pontiff. thousands of worshippers from around the world pack st. peter's square. senior international corresponden

there was an atf whistleblowers, and senator grassley's been the lead in whistleblower legislation. there was an atf whistleblower who testified last congress that the existing firearm laws are toothless, and they can't help law enforcement -- [inaudible] that's why law enforcement has consistently called for a firearms trafficking statute that can be effective and go after straw purchasers. what we need now is to create better law enforcement tools. and i think in this will, if senators can join together on, will lose a very dangerous loophole in the law that mexican cartels and gangs and other criminals have exploited for long. for too long. the illegal trafficking firearms act is important, and, you know, this week "usa today" ran a front-page story about a study that estimates gun violence costs americans $12 billion, $12 billion a year. i don't care whether it's 12 billion or 10 billion or 2 billion, we ought to do what we can in this committee to mitigate those unnecessary costs. and i want to yield to senator grassley and then we will take first, i think we have four -- >> th