anti-athenian and very important ways. it's always irritating when i run into very conservative intellectual is to say the greeks believed accent why. i say really, which ones? how many? what they always mean is plato leaves that. that's all they need. and plato was one guy. one especially brilliant person. and a great philosopher. but one person. he's always what the greeks believe. and he was very alienated his society. so it's a bit like in 3000 years someone says we have found these movies of michael moore. this is what the americans believed. someone who is quite alienated from his society. but i don't want to make it any other comparisons between plato and michael moore. these two cities go to war with their leagues. it's a complex interesting story. war thereoponnesian is a powerful statement. the funeral oration of pericles who was the demagogue in athens and he contrasts the spartans with the athenians. it's a clear statement of freedom. we do not deport people. this is quite relevant in the united states. our cit

he contrasts the spartans with the athenians. it is a true statement of freedom. we do not deport people, this is quite relevant to the united states in my opinion. our city is open to the world. we do not tell people to shut up. we believe in free and honest debate. we are not afraid to discuss things before we make decisions and every one of our citizens is able to show himself the rightful lord and owner of his own life. it is a very powerful statement of freedom. the statement of freedom that we can understand today. i want to caution, we don't want to overly romanticize. this is not a free society, but by the standards of the day, very much so. in contrast to sparta, which was basically a slave society. the spartans ruled over the most degraded slaves of the time. the worst kind of slavery. the priest rulers of the spartans ritually declared war on them every year. they were at war with them. they were enemies. they were enslaved and exploited in every possible way. andrew colson, a late colleague wrote a wonderful book on education. he said we should think a

name in the poem and there's one from syria and my message delivered into that song today i think athenians oh it was just so nice to see my friends the minute they play seven and then you have hundreds of thousands of has a nice. name bisley. i thought i would have thought things out a bit into a duck or nothing if movie in theaters. me on money and cited the like me when the man did incredibly and now we even have trump warning us thought against retaking it lib despite the fact that his own government admitted there were terrorists in the area is a province just the largest al qaeda safe haven since nine eleven and it live now is a huge problem it is an al qaeda safe haven right on the border of turkey a recurring problem for more than half a decade has been that u.s. plans are falling flat in syria and the flaws are already appearing and the expectations of donald trump strategy as well. well even so the u.s. military claims it knows a better way to fight terror in a lib than syria and its allies do but a political science professor from damascus we spoke to is skeptical about america's

athenian democracy, in abolished debt slavery as one of its founding acts. you heard earlier today tom quote from pericles he is funeral ration, talking about the liberty each athenian had to speak the liberty of their mind, to look another in the eye and not be ruled by them. they're genuinely was an orientation. and constance glances at them and steps aside from the idea that athens was different. again, you have an rejection ofd slavery, but the real value of liberalization modern is not telling us an accurate history of ancient greece but painting a powerfully true picture of commercial, liberal modernity, and the ways in which religious liberty, our freedom to choose our leisure time, commercial liberty, our ability to live in very large state, the rejection of slavery, and the continuing responsibility to democratically govern ourselves, nonetheless, of how all of that hangs together, and that the fullest statements, i think, of classical liberalism as that came to be as it fully worked political view. a second story about the evolution of the idea of

to outfit a single battalion to go to an athenian which bases in essentially the entire west of the army needs to be a scavenged for parts so i think this this pressure partly because of trumps obviously redirecting that has already led to some results we see the european union was a new defense initiative going back to mccone we see a germany discussing a larger defense budget so i think one of the results of the trump administration will be a move military keep a bull year of both in terms of the european pillar within nato but also in terms of a more independently capable. union which i want to believe will further undermine in a way america's leadership position well david if this really goes ahead. i mean we are saying that they will be a permanent base but there will be some sort of presence right in poland isn't there a risk that the message around the world is that anyone has a little bit of money and some concern can just go and knock at the door of the white house as say look i'll pay you but please come and put some of your soldiers in my country because i have an issue with m

that's a quotation from peracles's funeral oration and represents his athenian as well as jeffersonian faith. they believe that the ability to speak and think as you want are means indisuspensable. that without free speech and assembly, discussion would be futile. that with them, discussion affords. ordinarily, adequate protection against the dissemination of noxious doctrine, that the greatest threat to freedom is an inert people, that public discussion is a public duty and this should be a fundamental principle of the american government. in those extraordinary words are contained all the themes we're talking about, the states in reason and not only the opportunity but the duty of citizens to cultivate their faculties of reason rather than passion, channeling jefferson's belief that we all have certain faculties raising from passion at the bottom and reason at the top, but reason has to be cultivated through rigorous self-education and also this idea that as long as there's time enough to deliberate, that theme of time again, the best response to evil speech is good speech, and speec

the fear he talked about, you know, in greece thousands of years ago, the athenians went to war withns were afraid of how well their nearby city-state was doing. the u.n. secretary general is putting it on the map where this type of language leads. so this reference to the 1930s, this harkening back to an era that we've seen before that leads to chaos and possible wash, it's very real. that's why the mood i think toward the end was so somber and dark. >> interesting to point out the lesson of the 1930s, we were the good guys. we saved the world from facism and totalitarianism. the regime is the holocaust deniers. when they throw around anti-nazi rhetoric, they're the denierden. and the united states helped provide peace, prosperity, stability for the entire world. now it's a shame that the president of the united states doesn't appreciate that. that he doesn't see any value in that, that he doesn't realize the united states' strength is based on our alliances in the very organizations he disparages. at the end of the day, he does some points. the iranian regime is malicious. they are

to outfit a single battalion to go to an athenian which bases in essentially the entire west of the army needs to be a scavenged for parts so i think just to spread share partly because of trumps obviously redirecting that has already led to some results we see the european union was a new defense initiative going back to mccone we see a germany discussing a larger defense budget so i think one of the results of the trump administration will be a movement to keep a bull year of both in terms of a european pillar within nato but also in terms of a more independently capable. union which i want to believe will further undermine in a way america's leadership position well david if this really goes ahead. i mean we are saying that they will be a permanent base but there will be some sort of presence right in poland isn't there a risk that the message around the world is that anyone has a little bit of money and some concern can just go and knock at the door of the white house as say look i'll pay you but please come and put some of your soldiers in my country because i have an issue with my

the american way and they led the athenians astray. it does not work. right next to madison and washington is hamilton and the kids just brush to this proud, small creature who was in the room where it happened and he set the world on fire. we discovered by putting the name hamilton next to the picture is a great way to bring people in it. a sing -- simple pt barman -- pt barnum apart. bring less compelling framework. we have the most important from the philosophical perspective of james wilson. he came up with the up to -- idea that -- he ended up as a supreme court justice and debt and pursued his dented or pick in the movie 1776 which all of us the story and junkies have on this experience and wilson presented it because it is difficult to tell the real story. roger chairman gets a great song because the state rhymes. i don't know a participle from a predicate and i am a simple cobbler from connecticut. i did a quick look at the history of the movies and history about presidents. the dramatic ones do a lot better. there is a lot more lincoln in the 2