so i think some of those dynamics are in play, for sure. >> you know, atima, saying they're going to look at, quote, crimes and lies as it pertains to manafort, we're going to find out from the special counsel how he knew, how his entire team knew that manafort was lying to them and back-channelling to the trump white house. but i want to ask you, atima, since you are the democratic strategist on the panel, how this is going to impact the incoming democratic majority. lots of stories and the narrative is that the democratic party base is champing at the bit to impeach the president and say it's a narrative, not sure how hungry democrats are to impeach the president without any evidence. but after what we see this week, what kind of pressure could we see bearing upon the incoming democratic majority? >> i think it's going to be a lot of pressure, because more things are coming to light that were speculated on, but are now being more and more confirmed. such as, you know, what cohen sort of basically affirming, yes, i lied about the fact that we had no contact with russia. we weren't d

. >> what do you think of that when it comes to this, atima?'re nodding, is there agreement on that? >> yes. one of the interesting things about the poll, i was agreeing with rick on that, yeah, this is pretty stunning to see not only a certain amount of americans who think he should be impeached but also censured. so that's a large number for just any president of either party. you know, there's a majority of americans, at least certainly in this poll, who think there is cause to reprimand the president, be it impeachment or censureship. the other thing i was going to say, certainly is that i think to rick's point about impeachment, it's a serious thing, of course. and so obviously it's well-known in the democratic base that most folks think that trump is a crook and likely definitely, potentially a traitor to this country. the democrats picked up 40 seats by promising investigations, which they're stacking up their committees to take on. they need to make a clear case for impeachment as a result of those investigations that even the republica

atima and victoria. great to have all of you with us. amazing lineup. let's lfb isten to more of what lindsey graham had to say and then i'll get your reactions to it. >> when i mentioned today is an outline of a potential breakthrough would be $5 billion for a wall/border security, the bridge act and tps reform. i think that's in the realm of possibility. the president didn't commit, but i think he's open-minded. i know there's some democrats out there who would be willing to provide money for wall border security if we can deal with the daca population and hop fully get some serious discussion started as soon as next week. >> let me begin with your reaction to this vague shape of a deal. the senator seems to suggest there are democrats willing to accept this. we heard from our correspondent saying basically senator lindsey graham sent speaking on behalf of any of the leadership on both sides of the political aisle. what do you make of his statement and this possible deal? >> my two big takeaways are the number of slashes. border secure, wall, fence, w