she is interviewed by cheryl atkinson, atkinson, author of stonewalled and a former cbs news correspondent. >> so great to be speaking with you. welcome. >> thanks. great to be talking to you. >> let's start with a couple definitions right off the top. what would you say is a liberal and what would you say is a conservative? i think you can -- every conservative doesn't believe the same thing. every liberal doesn't believe the same thing, they both share some basic ideas about the role of government. they both see the role of government as being a positive force. conservative seeing -- see it as being more the problem. >> your book talks about what you call the liberal left. i'll just read part of one paragraph. with no sense of irony ashamed the air liberal left will engage in a tax of their own an effort to delegitimize people who dissent from the already decided worldview. it seems to be the basic they buy the book. >> right. i distinguished them from liberals who i think -- i consider myself a liberal. i think most liberals are principled and do still value the idea of free speech and

since then, she has managed to make alliances with to polish politicians as well as with janice atkinson, formerly of the eurosceptic party. this new group will have access to millions of euros in funding and more speaking time, thus more influence in parliament. the platform for what they call european resistance or a call for more 17 for some members and perhaps even an exit for others. >> at some point we will have a referendum soon. there are millions of people across the continent that support us and want to bring down this place. we want our country back and this is the road to start to get the country back. reporter: december member says the formation of the group was a historic moment and the beginning of their liberation from the eu. more centrist groups called it a bad day for europe. host: let's go back to the news updated economic reforms to parliament. this is named after the finance minister aims to liberalize the french economy. many within the socialist party our debt against the reforms. we were just talking to james shields, a french politics expert and they were discus

atkinson gave us an example of foyer requests and it taking ten years her daughter was eight. she was 18 by the time the foyer request. would you say the that that is a great response? >> no of course not. >> would you say that that response is unique, that the there are none others like that throughout the foyer requests? >> of course not as well. >> so what part of violating the law and it gives particularry responses, what point of violating that law does the department of justice condone? >> i think that it's important, it's important to look at areas that need improvement in i. >> what part of the law. >> improving -- >> does the justice department condone? >> we -- >> so you don't condone violating the law? >> of course not, of course not. >> so i would think that would be your answer. do you violate the law? >> of course not. >> so you never violated that law? >> we work hard very we work very hard at my office. >> i believe the that. >> to promote transparency and compliance with the law. >> i believe that. so the question under sworn testimony today is the justice dep

darryl atkinson.th molito is senior execuve council for the national federation of independent business. darrell atkinson i know this is not just a matter of public policy for you this is very personal in your own tore story can you tell us about that? >> sure william. in 1996 i was convicted of a first time violent drug crime. i spent 40 months in prison in the alabama department of corrections. i went in to pson with a high sal diploma i came ot with a high school diploma. fortunately enough for me hi a loving family that provided me food clothing and shelter and i have been able to achieve a certain degree of successful i've gotten my education. i'm licensed to practice law in minnesota an north carolina. i was honored at the white house as a champion of change in removing barriers for people with records but i don't tell that story to highlight any exceptionable attributes about me. i believe millions of people who cycle in and out of our crinal justice system can be successful as well if they hav

. >> bart atkinson spent years developing this multi-million dollar residential complex in the middle of untouched pine forest. >> in the end, cathedral pines escaped unscathed, partly because this was one of the first places the fire engines headed to. >> it literally split and went around the development. >> it went around us. and then of course they were dipping their helicopters right here. >> i saw aerial views from news cameras, and i saw them actually in drive ways of the homes with their fire trucks fighting the fire that very fist day. >> bart has spent large sums on fire protection for the development, and he says risk of wildfire shouldn't dictate where you can or can't build a home. >> i think we as americans should have the right to build and live where we want to live. i think our community actually proves a point if you do the rights things in mitigation you can live here safely. >> part of this is sort of the western mythos of we can do whatever we want anywhere. >> for economist ray rasker, new developments like cathedral pines are largely to blame for the rising annu

. >> reverend robert george, alan atkinson and jeff rasco with 100fathers.com.her's day to you. thank you for being with us. that's "viewpoint." i'm pat lawson muse. stay with us for "news4 today." >>> "news4 today" starts now. >> right now on "news4 today," working on a hot day. an ice cream truck driver shot and killed on the job. we're getting new details about the victim and the search for a gunman. >>> 92 was our high temperature yesterday. so just how warm and humid will it be again today? i'll have the latest in my forecast. >>> also ahead, the explanation a father is giving after his son shoots up a dallas texas police station. >>> good sunday morning, everyone. welcome to "news4 today." i'm gofangie goff. >> i want to start off a

cheryl atkinson testified foia is a broken system not by accident but by design.er reporter that you just heard said the pentagon only agreed to give up documents he requested many times if he promised never to submit another foia request. really? the argument supporting why there is such a long delay getting docs out to journalists is because of agency budget cuts. there simply aren't enough people to do the job. do you agree with that? more importantly, after these hearings do you think anything will change? you can get my takes on my facebook page and foxnews.com. >>> coming up the family of a boston terror suspect questioning police about their encount their killed the man carrying a military-style knife. police just showed that video though to community leaders. they watched it today. will it help to ease the tensions? >>> the first pitch for a major event honoring three slain new york police officers just a few hours away. it's hosted by these guys. how do you honor your local law enforcement? get the complete balanced nutrition of ensure. with nine grams of

we heard yesterday cheryl the atkinson say foia is a pointless, useless shadow of its former self and said it took ten or 11 years to get a request she submitted. another witness said that the pentagon, told him it would take 15 years to give him one and they said they would if he agreed to never file another foia request and the court ruled in his favor captioning and said it was ridiculous. they came up with that 15 year business. mr. mccraw from "the new york times" who said "the new york times" just that one business had to file eight different lawsuits last year. foia lawsuits. i'm told that there were 422 foia lawsuits just in 2014. we had another witness ms. mitchell, who told about the years she had spent litigating foia. and brought in here numerous, probably looked like about ten or 12 notebooks full of pages that finally were sent to her with practically everything, thousands of pages with 100% of -- on most of those pages totally redacted. and it really was just useless. i can tell you, the american people think the federal government is already far too big, out of control

atkinson gave us an example of foyer requests and it taking ten years her daughter was eight. she was 18 by the time the foyer request. would you say the that that is a great response? >> no of course not. >> would you say that that response is unique, that the there are none others like that throughout the foyer requests? >> of course not as well. >> so what part of violating the law and it gives particularry responses, what point of violating that law does the department of justice condone? >> i think that it's important, it's important to look at areas that need improvement in i. >> what part of the law. >> improving -- >> does the justice department condone? >> we -- >> so you don't condone violating the law? >> of course not, of course not. >> so i would think that would be your answer. do you violate the law? >> of course not. >> so you never violated that law? >> we work hard very we work very hard at my office. >> i believe the that. >> to promote transparency and compliance with the law. >> i believe that. so the question under sworn testimony today is the justice dep

ryan: thank you very much, neil atkinson. it will be an interesting meeting.alking to neil and the delegates and we will bring it to you through the day. mark: ryan, look forward to it. manus: join us both on twitter. should ryan chilcote get an upgrade, and indeed is he staying at the intercontinental hotel? they say it is very nice. some friends of mine covered opec a few years ago. do not forget mark barton's twitter if you want the bar charts. mark: it is coming. it is about china. coming up next an exclusive interview with the chairman of the and say. stay with us. ♪ mark: the world economic forum in africa continues in cape town. and is there with an exclusive interview. good morning. anna: good morning, mark. i have a guest here who i will not delay introducing. the president of the cbi. thank you very much for talking with us. we have been talking in recent months about the consolidation taking place in the telecom sector. let's start with that. a frenzy of m&a. how is that going, euro deal? guest: we are just waiting for regulatory clearance. we have

we heard in here yesterday cheryl atkinson say that foia is a pointless useless shadow of its former self. she testified that it took over 10 years, 10 or 11 years to get a request that she submitted. another witness, mr. leipold said the pentagon agreed to -- told him it would take 15 years to give him material and they said they would only give it to him if he agreed never to file another foia request. of course then the court ruled in his favor and said it was ridiculous that they came up with that 15-year business. mr. mccarl from "the new york times" who said "the new york times" just that one business had to file eight different lawsuits last year foia lawsuits. and i'm told there were 422 foia lawsuits just in 2014. we had another witness cleeta mitchell, who told about the years she had spent litigating foia and brought in here numerous probably -- looked like about 10 or 12 notebooks full of pages that finally were sent to her with practically everything thousands of pages with 100% of those -- 100% on most of those pages totally redacted and it really was just useless. i ca

atkinson gave us examples of foia requests. it took ten years. her daughter was 8. she was 18 by the time the foia request -- would you say that was a great response? >> of course not. >> would you say that response is unique? that there are none others like that throughout all the foia requests? >> of course not as well. as we -- >> so what part of violating the foia law that is very clear and you know the foia law i would assume. it gives particular responses. what part of violating the foia law does the department of justice condone? >> i think it's important to look at areas that need improvement in foia. >> okay. so what part of the law does the justice department condone? >> we don't -- we -- >> so you don't condone violating the law. >> of course not. of course not. >> okay. so i would think that would be your answer. do you violate the law? >> of course not. >> so you never violated the foia law? >> we work very hard at my office. >> i believe that. so the question is in your sworn testimony today does not violate -- has never violated the foia law. is that

i really thought that cheryl atkinson's book hit it on the head.here have been some other political books that are very good to have been describing the atmosphere and how it has changed in washington. host: we will have to leave it there to move on to a few more callers. next is rachel from iowa city, iowa. rachel, do you use facebook? caller: actually no. probably the closest thing i would use would be twitter so no, but i do get my news from a variety of sources. i am really looking for original reporting and journalism. one great thing about the internet is it allows you to look at things like ap and reuters for yourself and i do not think that was possible before the internet. i also get newspapers, i read a national newspaper and a local newspaper every day. i enjoy news like frontline and magazines like "mother jones" that do a lot of original reporting. i think now you can get that kind of news and a lot of different formats. it is trying to find that original reporting, places like c-span for example. host: a few more comments from twitter

we heard yesterday cheryl the atkinson say foia is a pointless, useless shadow of its former self-and testify erer self and said i took ten or 11 years to get a request she submitted submitted. another witness said that the pentagon, told him it would take 15 years to give him one and they said they would if he agreed to never file another foia request and the court ruled in his favor captioning performed by vitac