atlantic council.delighted to welcome congressman michael mccaul, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee to the atlantic council. atlantic council. we're delighted to welcome congressman michael mccaul, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, to the cochlear atlantic council. we're delighted to welcome you to the first atlantic council front page event in our new headquarters at 1400 l street. and we hope all of you who are watching online will come visit us soon, and thank you to those who are here at the headquarters. chairman mccaul is currently serving his tenth term in congress, representing texas' tenth district. in addition to serving as chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, congressman mccaul is the former chair of the house committee on homeland security. he's one of the nation's strongest, most principled, and most consistent leaders on u.s. foreign policy, since russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine, he's been a staunch advocate for supporting ukraine's victory

let's speak to michael bocuirkiw, global affairs analyst and senior fellow at the atlantic council.you for talking to us and bbc news. so give us your reaction to this latest development that the president have approved the use of antipersonnel landmines to ukraine. ., ., ,, ukraine. your thoughts? sure. i coloured -- _ ukraine. your thoughts? sure. i coloured -- i— ukraine. your thoughts? sure. i coloured -- i think _ ukraine. your thoughts? sure. i coloured -- i think a _ ukraine. your thoughts? sure. i coloured -- i think a couple - ukraine. your thoughts? sure. i coloured -- i think a couple of l coloured —— i think a couple of things. one is it is recognition on the part of the biden administration that ukraine does need a lot of help right now. i would say it is a little too late, but it is also recognition of what is happening on the front line. according to the institute of the study of war, russia has gained six times more territory this year so far then it has last year, that is quite a bit. and by the way, as we are talking right now, literally seconds ago, i heard anti a

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center for strategy and security at the atlantic council what do you make of this decision from joedecision from joe biden? it is too little, too _ decision from joe biden? it is too little, too late. _ decision from joe biden? it is too little, too late. two - decision fromjoe biden? it 3 too little, too late. two and a half years ago i and other experts argued we should have a strategy of helping ukraine to win on the battlefield and take back its territory. that is not what the wasted, we provided a drip of weapons, against tanks before we were for them, and aircraft as well. it is the latest example of being unwilling to let ukraine use missiles destroyed russian territory. at this late date we finally give them approval. what it means is russia has had time to take in. we are looking at the battlefield, it is the russians taking back territory. i don't think it will change things significantly on the battlefield. it will give the ukrainians so more leveraged negotiations, which is where donald trump says he wants to take the conflict. i donald trump says he wants to take the co

so this is this fast been institute carnegie atlantic council, under institute for us to, to dialogue as of services. the all by then says i'm at the national endowment for democracy. global engagement center from allison, it is still young. on from cyber security infrastructure, the security agency, eyeglasses, sites are neighbors, please, and i can request vacancies to sit down. i'm the median partner. you have to unlist it from the from field a median partner meetings, which is i'm an outlet and we deemed good thing is that, that's the serious thing. and i know to start on now what's on how to install it. i'm just going to miss key of to this to get my own computer boots. uh, unless i go for the list i'm gonna use for now. okay. you know, this was kind of played side honestly. whenever people does one, this is the answer. you might even be brought up the massacre in butcher. what happened in boucher, abhorrent and senseless on what happened in boucher? he is now calling for war crimes trials, the mazda. that's a 2022 russian forces. that's boucher, a small town. so the kilometers f

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he's a member of the atlantic council and the world economic forum, the atlanta council being funded by it's essentially a nato, a think tank ukraine, just as once in iraq. there's a media h q, from the news, except both of the clients, as well as wise ukrainian crisis media centers website doesn't hide these liaisons among open data listed organizations of the us embassies, public affairs section, the us agency for international development, the national endowment for democracy the european in down that it's a democracy, you case institute the government under cause night. so us began creating information warfare platforms, such as spirit of america, which was a 5, a one c 3 that was contracted by the c i a by the british, by the state department to broadcast pro american messages, anti rushing messages, dozens of companies in the us promot ukrainian propaganda, for example, one of the largest dealer agencies in america, plus communications, openly funds the so called ukranian p, a ami at the sites. like i told him, i'd be joining the virtual curtis to craig's gift. as of now use th

givi gigitashvili is a research associate at the atlantic council's digital forensic research lab.s actions represent what most georgians want. uh, well, definitely no, because 97% of georgians are in favour of country's integration into the european union. so the decision the georgian government made runs against the will of the majority. and it was also mentioned that they openly and blatantly violated georgia's constitution because article 78 says that authorities should take all means in order to advance country's integration into the european union. so this is against the constitution and this is against the will of georgian people. you study online disinformation and foreign interference strategies. what has the talk been that you've seen and the kind of direction that online media sites might be pushing people towards? well, what i can definitely say is that currently, this movement is completely the grassroots movement and this is a spontaneous protest, not mobilised or organised by anyone. so of course, pro—government actors in social media are trying to discredit the prot

peter dickinson live from kyiv from the atlantic council, thank you very much.rthern gaza, a multi—storey building housing palestinians has been struck in beit lahiya. officials from gaza's civil defence agency say at least 26 people were killed in an israeli air strike, with many trapped under the rubble. the israeli military says it is investigating the reports. there have been israeli strikes elsewhere in gaza. these pictures of al—aqsa hospital in deir al—balah were filmed by our freelancer as israel does not allow foreign journalists free access to gaza. children were among those injured taken to the hospital. in beirut — an israeli air strike is reported to have killed hezbollah's media chief — mohamad afif — one of the few remaining public faces of the group. he was last seen on monday, when he gave a news conference in beirut�*s southern suburbs, where hezbollah is headquartered. for the latest on the attacks in gaza, frank gardner is in jerusalem for us. bring is up—to—date on what you're hearing from gaza. it up-to-date on what you're hearing from gaza

i want -- i came from the atlantic council. i want to drill down on global trade.trade alert, trade will not be the same engine of growth as before. .. that in 2019. you are saying it's worse. my question is is, how much worse is it getting? and you talk about we can do better. wonder if you can get more specific? a lot of countries see it in their self-interest whether it's chinese over capacity exports, whether it's tariffs of the e.u. or u.s., self-interest sometimes overcomes what you are arguing self interest sometimes overcomes what you're striving for which is global trade coming together. where do you start? what changes this trajectory? >> first observation i would like to make, fred, is that trade has slowed down but has not gone into reverse. and when you look at the reason for it, it is primarily this very deep interdependence that is been built over decades. what is importantor to recognize is that it is now multi-advanced economies that are leading the way on restrictions. in the last 18 months there have been 4000 industrial policy measures that impa

a lawyer we spoke with elizabeth bra, she's a security analyst at the atlantic council. this specializes in hybrid threats. we asked her if she thinks the cable was sabotaged and why questions are being raised by the presence of a chinese flag bustle in the baltic. it certainly seems like it, so it had been just this case, one could have said, oh, it was a chinese flag vessel that the boss of reading those navigation on charts properly . it didn't see where the cables were located. bus last year. we had a similar incidents also involving a chinese flagged vessel as that cap says 2 cables and one pipelines of all the sea . and now this case involving 2 and 2 communications cables. and once again, involving a chinese matching vessel that instead of staying behind, which would be the responsible thing to do. if you didn't mean to cut the cables and say, is all. and that is what's the best of us doing at the moment that has same toward the danish straits through the danish straits now onto the atlantic ocean. a sketch up on a few other stories making headlines around the wor

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we can speak now to melinda haring, a senior fellow at the atlantic council's eurasia centre and expertining us. how much of this is vladimir putin testing the west?— testing the west? hello. this is vladimir — testing the west? hello. this is vladimir putin _ testing the west? hello. this is vladimir putin testing - testing the west? hello. this is vladimir putin testing the l is vladimir putin testing the west. and trying to scare is. i think it is important to have a bit of context: this isn't the first time moscow has sent a nuclear capable missile into ukraine. it is really important to stay calm and not overreact. another important fact that has been missed: ukraine doesn't have endless storm shadows or endless french scalps were endless french scalps were endless attack missiles. the supply is pretty limited also. it is pretty scary for the west when you think that all of this follows, the use of the experimental hypersonic missile with a long range, it comes in the same week that russia lowered the threshold at which they could conceivably use nuclear weapons.- nuclear weapons.

let's speak to gina abercrombie—winstanley, non—resident senior fellow at the atlantic council.nd welcome to the programme. so your thoughts at news that we could be close to some form of agreement on the ceasefire deal?— ceasefire deal? thank you. well, it is _ ceasefire deal? thank you. well, it is what _ ceasefire deal? thank you. well, it is what we - ceasefire deal? thank you. well, it is what we have i ceasefire deal? thank you. well, it is what we have all been hoping for on both fronts, both gaza and of course, lebanon. and this is the agreement that should have been implemented in 2006. this is un security council resolution 1701, with the movement of hezbollah north and the replacing of them by the lebanese armed forces. 0bviously, they are going to be augmented with technical means and those guarantees that the united states is likely making to israel about what it can do if hezbollah violates the agreement. there will be a few questions that we have to watch. if indeed, it is agreed, and that is two tight issues. one, the israeli saying that they have the right and f

joined now by former ambassador to the republic of malta and non—resident senior fellow at the atlantic councilwinstanley. thank you forjoining me today. we will get to trump's appointment in a bit but first i want your reaction and your thoughts to this deadline that's been passed and the us are saying it has no intention to stop arms supplier to israel, does it come as a surprise to you? i israel, does it come as a surprise to you? i believe it comes as — surprise to you? i believe it comes as a _ surprise to you? i believe it| comes as a disappointment, disappointment to many who were hoping that this would be a redline that helped. now, it is one of several over the year that the president and us leadership laid out to demand adherence to international humanitarian law, the law of armed conflict and yet, another redline has been crossed. looks like without accountability. i will so that it would have been hard as we see the sort of appointees that incoming president is going to make that evenif president is going to make that even if a president biden work going to hold the redline and they

speak to michael bociurkiw, the senior fellow at the eurasia centre of the us based think—tank atlantic councillcome to bbc news. there is a hot to get through. first, let me get your thoughts on what we have seen from russia. here me get your thoughts on what we have seen from russia.— have seen from russia. here in k iv have seen from russia. here in kyiv there _ have seen from russia. here in kyiv there was _ have seen from russia. here in kyiv there was a _ have seen from russia. here in kyiv there was a big _ have seen from russia. here in kyiv there was a big blast - kyiv there was a big blast followed by others. these were air defence systems in central kyiv. so it is a strategic area. they were able to bring these down. but others struck or debris from missiles fell down. let's be clear, what paul said is happening, is vladimir putin is trying to destroy the critical infrastructure, the heating infrastructure, temperatures now are going down to freezing point. so it is going to be difficult. most of odesa now where i'm usually based no, water and no heating. i will take paul's analysis

one of them is something you said in the interview you did with the atlantic council and fred camp. rather than try to pull apart, we should scrunch them together. you make the point that china and russia and if you had north korea and iran -- add north korea and iran have historic and contemporary reasons to be weary of each other. they have a long border, a lot of empty space in russia and a lot of excess people in china which is a source of tension. i'm sure the chinese are not so sure they would like a close relationship that is reemerged between the north koreans and russia. after the russians are concerned about what china is doing in central asia. one thing is to try to underscore and encourage and make the point these countries have differing interests. the second thing i would say is you are not going to wean russia from this axis. they are too dependent on the other countries as they pursue their war in ukraine. china is a different matter. if we pursue the right policies in ukraine to set back russia, and the middle east a setback iran, and in asia in order to deter china

by gissou nia, a human rights lawyer and director of the strategic litigation project at the atlantic councily. what happens next now that his ruling has been made? is it realistic to expect enforcement? , ., , enforcement? the question is whether or — enforcement? the question is whether or not _ enforcement? the question is whether or not this _ enforcement? the question is whether or not this will - enforcement? the question is whether or not this will be - whether or not this will be enforced. i think what is a more immediate outcome is that netanyahu and atacms will have their travel severely restricted. we are not sure what stacey you are icc member says and who were allies of israel were going to say about the warrants but we saw a whole range of reactions today and it is clear the netherlands, belgium, spain, france, norway, italy, the list goes on, they have all indicated they will enforce the arrest warrant in aligned with their obligations as icc member states, so that really restricts the scope of where netanyahu or yoav gallant can travel. i5 where netanyahu or yoav gallant can t

with us to discuss is the senior director of the atlantic council, and former ambassador to ukraine from 2006. also here is the former ukraine foreign minister from 2019 to 2020, also ukrainian ambassador to no from 2017-2019. just the right people to discuss where we are at tonight. first of all, the u.s. said early this morning it was closing its embassy due to information about a significant air attack. the italians, spaniards and greeks all closed their embassies. does that tell us there is a response coming? >> i think that is the expectation that putin is not happy with the decision on the atacms and this is how he is responding, instead of threatening wh nukes which is his normal tactic. >> why do you think joe biden has taken this flurry of decisions? he seems to have scrubbed out all of these red lines. >> biden had has -- has had a consistent pattern since the first days of the invasion, which was being intimidated by putin's nuclear threats and to say no to very reasonable weapons systems. because those requests were reasonable, over time he would change his mind. it began wit

these river, a hairy omen is a senior advisor of the atlantic council. and chapman of the kilbourne group, a government advisory firm, he joins us live now from washington dc. good to have you with us. so the latest lines which seem to be dropping fast at this point have the all position claiming that they are in neighborhoods of how about of course, the student government is denying the claims, denying the claims that they have left the positions. what does it look like to you? is this an opposition advance that still has some area to take before it runs its close? as you're reporting so far is good, but it's been concerned my sense the opposition could amount to at least a $150000.00 buyers. and as you pointed out, the leadership and the mixture of people who are in support of the opposition are very, very valid. from the united states, there's a real concern that there may be too many solid office, but people think that the united states may be overly sensitive to that. at this stage is to really my thinking is that the opposition has the administrati

spoke to former us ambassador to the republic of malta and non—resident senior fellow at the atlantic councile—winstanley. i started by asking her views on the passing of the us deadline without any action. it comes as a disappointment, a disappointment to many who were hoping that this would be a redline that helped. now, it is one of several over the last year that the president and us leadership laid out to demand adherence to international humanitarian law, the law of armed conflict and yet, another redline has been crossed. and it looks like without accountability. i will so that it would have been hard as we see the sort of appointees that the incoming president is going to make that even if a president biden work going to hold the redline and there are all indications that he should, recognising that before this war started, 500 trucks used to go into the gaza strip every day. so, even asking for merely 350 was a decrease of what was the norm. and so, we are where we are and it looks like it's not going to get any better even as the new administration comes in. president biden does see

givi gigitashvili is a research associate at the atlantic council's digital forensic research lab.what most georgians want. no, because 97% of people are in favour of integration so the decision that georgian government made runs against the will of the majority, and it was also mentioned that they openly violated the constitution because article 70 -- 78 constitution because article 70 —— 78 says authorities should take all means in order to advance integration into the european union. so this is against the constitution and against the constitution and against the constitution and against the will of georgian people. against the will of georgian --eole. ., , , ., people. you study online disinformation _ people. you study online disinformation and - people. you study online. disinformation and foreign interference strategies. what has the talk been that you have seen and the direction that those, that online media sites might be pushing people towards?— might be pushing people towards? ~ . u, towards? well, what i can definitely _ towards? well, what i can definitely say _ toward

gissou nia, a human rights lawyer and director of the strategic litigation project at the atlantic councilraeli pm and his former defence minister. the question is whether or not this will be enforced. i think what is a more immediate outcome is that netanyahu and gallant will have their travel severely restricted. we were not sure what icc member states and who are allies of israel were going to say about the warrants but we saw a whole range of reactions today and it is clear the netherlands, belgium, spain, france, norway, italy, ireland, the list goes on — they have all indicated they will enforce the arrest warrant in line with their obligations as icc member states, so that really restricts the scope of where netanyahu or gallant can travel. is this ruling undercut somewhat by the fact the us is not signed up to the icc? in fact, us presidentjoe biden called it "outrageous". the us obviously has had a relationship with the international criminal court that ebbs and flows. they were supportive with the investigation into russia's war crimes in ukraine, and now have been very opposed t

for more on what comes next i spoke to melinda haring, nonresident senior fellow at the atlantic councilsin was predictable. irresponsible but the thrust of their argument is that the west is doing something new and it said the kremlin claimed that washington would be using its intelligent support in order to fire these long—range ballistic missiles. that is true. us support will be required. but what they left out is that the us has been providing intelligence support since day one of the war so there is no major change. us intelligence provided support over the battle of kyiv and over the seeking of one of the major russian navy vessels in the black sea, so the kremlin is wrong in that there is a new evolution in the west. that is absolutely false. the idea of arming western adversaries — do we have any idea who that might be and what the arming would look like and a timeframe on any of that? we don't know and the allegations are very vague. the previous allegation was the houthis but it's important to put russian reps in greater context. vladimir putin loves to threaten the west, it is

she is the deputy director for european energy security at the atlantic council's global energy centeran energy infrastructure and energy facilities of leaving, as i say, about a million people without electricity and power. thank ou so electricity and power. thank you so much _ electricity and power. thank you so much for— electricity and power. thank you so much for having - electricity and power. thank you so much for having me. electricity and power. thank i you so much for having me on. really appreciate it. i think it is important to set the scene right, and this narrative that putin is trying to create, this false narrative of this being some kind of retaliation, i think it's important to address the fact that this was address the fact that this was a designed, strategic, intentional action that russia would have taken regardless. this attack on energy infrastructure has been taking place since 2022. this is a feature of russia's strategy in ukraine to increase civilian suffering as much as possible, to ensure chaos, to get people to ensure chaos, to get people to move around th

melinda haring is a senior fellow at the atlantic council's eurasia centre and expert on ukraine...it is important to have a bit of context: this isn't the first time moscow has sent a nuclear capable missile into ukraine. it is really important to stay calm and not overreact. another important fact that has been missed: ukraine doesn't have endless storm shadows or endless french scalps were endless atacms. the supply is pretty limited also. it is pretty scary for the west when you think that all of this follows, the use of the experimental hypersonic missile with a long range, it comes in the same week that russia lowered the threshold at which they could conceivably use nuclear weapons. so, that decision on nuclear weapons was made back in september and was published this week. vladimir putin is very good at rattling the west. he is brilliant at this. that is what he is up to. he has made numerous nuclear threats since the war began nearly three years ago. he never makes good on his promise. i think that, as your russian editor said, vladimir putin has no brakes, reverse, and isn

michael bosserque is the senior fellow at the atlantic council and the former spokesman for the 0sces is totally the russian playbook. we had that in the summer when heavy targeting put out electricity in many cities for hours every day including here in 0desa. we have had previous damning previous situations that had little publication where the sometimes as a journalist or commentator you hate to be long but i predicted this is what the russians would do, take advantage of vulnerability, bombing infrastructure in cold temperatures, putting people without light in the cold. irate without light in the cold. we are now into _ without light in the cold. we are now into the early parts of the winter, it's already cold. give me an idea of the impact this is having. i give me an idea of the impact this is having.— give me an idea of the impact this is having. i walked around for many hours _ this is having. i walked around for many hours today - this is having. i walked around | for many hours today including to the area near where i am standing that was bombed heavily to three days ago.

digital, a guy named simon clark, was a democratic party. political operative, he's now on the atlantic council. he was the center for american progress, which is a democratic party. think tank a wave of made a treat to a surge and, and to western sentiments and political top while the how about for check it. history do abided has presided over during his tenure, when he comes to america's relations with africa are to you still, the video can be a big down washington's legacy on the continent for us. so by this time comes when in that she succeeds, so we'll have to deal with the legacy when it comes to africa. fight in schools, schools approximately stipulated in between to to just to ask you to strategy. not so monster to fax in that document to you is present all to that. should have enough bold to wait in global institutions to keep the confidential voice and global assistant making. some way that's effective once again to happen. ways of making this patient expected for 4 years have received a political upheaval with us, the whole region of washington rising . and we sustained some african

he's now on the atlantic council. he was the center for american progress, which is a democratic party think tank so when it comes to alleged to russian meddling in the american election just around the corner, let's go to it. i guess stephen, sorry, in the political commentator in chief editor of the media discourse, i see you thanks so much for coming on and sharing a stuff that they with us here or not to international. hey, listen, man, no surprise. i mean, really, i'm going to try and keep a straight face here, made us officials or get us a sounding of a alarm. a russia is whipping up break videos to sway american photos told tales of election cheating. your thoughts on why must go is once again, back in the blame guy of the arts using other countries of stuff that they do. that's number one. number 2, this is just another way for demonizing, russia, they, uh, they are doing. you may not have seen them in the media either. it's so hor, political admitted fairly economical need. yeah. where i can give such a numbe

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let's speak to peter dickinson, who is the editor of ukraine—alert at the atlantic council — an american he joins us from kyiv. thank you for coming on the programme. good afternoon. we will talk about the drone strikes and the battlefield in a moment. first, iwanted to get your sense and response to those numbers in terms of russian losses and the cost of the russian economy. the russian — the russian economy. the russian losses _ the russian economy. the russian losses are - the russian economy. the russian losses are at - the russian economy. the russian losses are at a - the russian economy. tue: russian losses are at a record high. this has been a trend ongoing for a number of months. russia is making record gains although they are not sweeping gains but they are far more territorial gains than last year but that is coming with high losses. however, i don't think it will be a major factor in influencing putin's decision making. he has been a great pains to make sure the losses they are suffering will not have a major social impact in russia. they have recruited heavily for their arm

authorities in the region are on high alert. elizabeth bro, is the security on the list that the atlantic council actually specialize in hyper and threats and his author of the upcoming book and to see what she joins us from london. welcome to the w. and what do you think was fish cable sabotaged? as it certainly seems like it. so it is a had been just this case, one could have said already it was a chinese flag vessel that the boss and reading those navigation on charts properly didn't see where the cables were located. bus last year. we had a similar incidents also involving a chinese flagged vessel as that cap says 2 cables and one pipelines of all the sea . and now this case involve a 2 and 2 communications cables. and once again, involving a chinese matching vessel that instead of staying behind, which would be the responsible thing to do. if you didn't mean to cut the tables and say, is all. and that is what's the best of us doing at the moment, it has same toward the danish straits, through the danish straits now on the atlantic ocean is a presumption that business chinese vessels acting a