from the atlantic council, this is just under an hour and a half. mr. brookie: good morning, thank you all so much for being here today. my name is graham brookie and i am the vice president for technology programs here at the atlantic council. this is a special event on driving smart cities in latin america and the caribbean. i have to say one quick point of order, the intro music for this event today is markedly better, comparably, to the rest of the atlantic council events, and i think that is probably specific to the subject matter we are working on. it is our particular honor to count with us today sitting here with us on stage, first and foremost, ambassador brian nichols, assistant secretary for western hemisphere affairs. and jennifer bachus, inaugural -- accurate to say? -- inaugural assistant deputy for the bureau of cyberspace and digital policy. both from the department of state, who have chosen the atlantic council today to launch their program aimed at empowering local governments. the digital agenda for transformation in the americas, whi

from the atlantic council this is about a half hour. mr. wilkinson: -- >> good afternoon everyone. i am a resident senior fellow at the atlanta council. thank you for joining us in person and virtually. we are honored to be joined by jonathan wilkinson minister of energy and natural resources in canada. to talk about tariffs and energy. you may hear of -- seems extreme market reaction because the u.s. and canada probably have one of the most integrated energy systems in the world. in 20 23 about 198 billion dollars of trade. two way trade. we get 60% of our oil from canada. oil that refineries on the gulf coast use and that the u.s. doesn't make. two way trade in electricity. almost 30 states get electricity from canada. we sent gas, oil, projects to canada. we have 70 pipelines that cross the border. that is why it got a big reaction. we are very closely integrated. the electricity grid is very important. we get most of our major components like transformers and switchgear from canada as well as critical minerals. it's why we had a big reaction. we are fortunate to have mr. wilkin

a version will be available on the atlantic council website and our youtube page.join us for future events. >> today, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu becomes the first foreign leader to meet with president trump at the white house since last month's migration. the two are expected to discuss the next phase of the cease-fire at hostage release deal between israel and hamas and hold a joint news conference later today live on c-span3 expected to start after 5:00 p.m. eastern. watch on the free c-span now video out or online at c-span.org. next, secretary of state marco rubio

so jeff palka global india fellow at the atlantic council. so good of you to lend us your time. thanks so much. thank you. all right, here's a quick look now at some of the headlines this out at least 30 people have been injured after they were brand by a caught in the gym, and city of munich, police of arrested suspect described as a 24 year old former asylum seeker from afghanistan, politicians have described the incident as a, as probably an attack from an f. kennedy junior has been confirmed as the new united states secretary of health. it was approved by the senate with 52 volts, 240 a r f k has a history of vaccine skepticism and spreading misinformation. he says these priorities in government include tackling a, basically removing of the process foods from school. lessons of the building international film festival has kicked off. i list active timothy selma is here for the gym and premier of he's bob dylan, biopic and complete unknown until the student has been awarded. an honorary base with the festival was launched with a premier from jim in the lights by director tom

so how can a global india follow at the atlantic council? so good of you to lend us your time. thanks so much. thank you for inc. prices have hit an old time high in the united states at nearly $5.00 a 1000 on average in flu outbreaks which have killed millions of vague, lying hands bearing knots of the blind chicken. no egg. and with supplies running short and even reports of isolated rationing consume is had been lift scrambling it's become a common sight and us grocery stores empty shells, hardly any eggs here. and if they can be found at all, they come with an s. so nomic a price tag that is not only the raw stuff, the price of $8.00 dishes and restaurants is up. many fast food chains are adding a surcharge to everything from omelettes to pancakes. food insulation is hurting americans so much so that some are getting creative. a growing trend, backyard shaking, raising the animals at home, brings a steady supply of the nutritious goods. this small life stuck farm and texas, that's hobby farmers. so in the last few weeks we've noticed a dramatic increase in the demand for, f

it's a pleasure to join the atlantic council had thank you very much for hosting us today and especiallyto our partners at the department of state for all their support and leadership in this space. we are very proud to help implement the data initiative that we have launched today for ustda has long partnered with local governments in the region and this initiative will deepen and expand our partnership to advance smart infrastructure. specifically our role within this initiative as i mentioned is actually part of your handout as well we are grateful to receive the funding from the state department or agency americans for $3 million for projects preparation particularly focused on this space. when ustda may be -- we can provide even more grants for this space for feasibility studies technical assistance and pilot projects that can help advance smart cities projects in the region for opening up the door for u.s. technologies and solutions to provide some great advancements in this area. we have been getting more examples but as one of the main implementors of this initiative we are very

>> from the atlantic council this is about half an hour. ♪ ♪ >> good afternoon everyone. welcome, i'm david goldman chairman of the advisory group nonresident senior fellowev here at the atlantic council thanks for joining us in person. and also virtually. we're honored today to be joined by jonathon wilkinson, to talk about tariffs and energy. you want to see the extreme market reaction to president trump's threat to impose 25% tariffs on canada and mexico and 10% onma energy trade. and that's because the u.s. and conditioned have probably one of the most integrated energy systems in world 2023 i think we did about 198 billion in trade we get 60% of our imported oil from canada heavy oil refineries from the midwest and gulf coast use and which the united states doesn't make. we have two way trade in electricity 300 states i think i've got electricity from canada. we send gas and oil and they sending back to us we get a quarter for nuclear react force and 70 pipelines across the border and maybe 30, electrician connections that's why i've got a pretty big reaction we're c

fred kempe with the atlantic council.here at home, the cybersecurity firm sailpoint has made its debut on the nasdaq. it's returned to public markets. the first trade just crossed. kristina partsinevelos has the details. christina. they're all cheersing upstairs. >> you can't hear it. >> but this is a. texas based cybersecurity firm. >> like you mentioned. they announce pricing at. >> 23 bucks per. >> share on ticker sale. >> for its upsized offering of 60 million shares, well above its initial range. the deal includes 57.5 million shares from sailpoint, itself. >> another two and a half from existing stockholders. >> marking really. >> a significant. >> return to the public markets. >> even though prices are a little bit below 23 bucks right now, i use the. word return because this company is no stranger to. >> public markets. >> it first. >> went public in 2017, three. >> years after. >> its initial acquisition. >> by thoma. >> bravo, before. >> being taken private again. >> in 2022. >> through a $6.9. >> billion. >> de

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alkhatib, a resident senior fellow with the scowcroft middle east security initiative at the atlantic council'st the relief among those in gaza with the ceasefire agreement. my brothers�* a humanitarian work on the ground trying to do as much as the camp, he and his colleagues, with israeli approval. the people there are on a knife edge, on the one hand they are relieved the ceasefire will continue and on the other hand nothing fundamental has changed as far as they are stuck between the endless cycle of the hamas propaganda, the pressure against towards israel, the israeli pressures, what is happening since the trump plan was revealed, but there is hope nevertheless that for the foreseeable future the two parties will continue with the ceasefire as agreed upon. talking about the plight of those in gaza and the struggles they are dealing with, how are they reacting to this plan we have heard from the us president to evict gazans, to find new places for them to go? how is that being viewed and how could that impact the ceasefire? there has been a combination of confusion, contempt, by the incohe

i spoke earlier tojohn herbst — a senior director of the atlantic council's eurasia center and formerukraine. he told me what ukraine has to offer in this negotiation. that they have rare earth and other critical minerals worth it's not clear what percentage of that so this is stuff, material, minerals that is but it would be wrong to say ukraine deal, so do you see there being any wriggle room, any space for a deal here? he has said he wants to achieve a durable the reasons, a very concrete reason for that. started. what are your thoughts about the recent war of words between presidents trump durable peace. the trump administration, president trump third day in office, the impediment to peace is putin. and the way to get putin to change his mind and move towards peace is to put pressure on russia. all putin sees right now is trump trading insults with zelensky. speaking of materials that drive microsoft has invented a new state of matter as part the substance is neither a liquid, a solid or a gas. race to build a quantum computer capable of solving important real—world problems. quan

member of america's council of foreign relations and sits on the board of directors for the atlantic councilrkets. helima croft, thank you for joining us on the programme. let's start with the fact that donald trump is doing a lot to free up oil and gas permits and leases... yes. so, he's back to "drill, baby, drill," and he's talking once but the challenge for him is thatjust because you have a looser permitting regime doesn't mean that it's onto the market. you could make yourselves uneconomic. it's that at what price does fifllllfifi ree £3535? lfiffi? [$3 and he says the aim of it is to reduce inflation. but oil and gas is, as we know, an international market, he do about it? turn on production like a light switch? and so you have to turn to the countries that hence why we are back to the demands that opec basically bring on more barrels. but again, the challenge is, for the opec countries, is it in their economic interests to significantly lower prices? want to see $50 oil. against their own economic self—interest? how are his calls being received there? clear that they have an opec agreemen

hers was janelle, due on at washington dc wilshire's on poca, is a global indian fellow at the atlantic council. he has more on the key outcomes of the know the trump meeting. hi, on to the thank you so much for having me. i think the brightness of all of the strategy of not being complacent and coming to vary with his own concessions, gone to proposals seems to have worked for the most part because that was lucky to know, escalation traded data, fluid are obviously a concern for the trump administration, i think what we can see is that there will be conversation, especially the potential revival of a trade agreement between the us and india, plus uh the agreement that india will procure more american defense equipment for the to adjust the balance is another good sign. and loss to all of us the, the fact that the 2 countries will work together to investigation issues is another good outcome that we could have lost at migration. and tears were expected to be key topics during this meeting. as it seems like with, from india's perspective, have pretty cool. is it to resolve these issues or what i

guest: will have this discussion very seriously tomorrow during the north atlantic council meeting.entrated on ukraine and tomorrow we will discuss internal matters of nato. and i am very confident that we will raise that issue not only from the industrial point of view, but also from the defense spending's point of view very seriously. estonia has been saying for a long time already, that 2% is simply not enough and it should be 3% or rather more. we have next year already agreed to three point 7%. maybe we will even increase it after the discussions we have in estonia to go above 4%, maybe even 5%. we expect that all the countries in nato -- what response did you christian: get from the british minister christian: lesson defense minister when you put that to him today? guest: i had not much time today with john, but we will definitely have more time tomorrow. we know that -- it is also determined to have better defense forces and they conducting the defense review. i really do hope not only britain also portugal, spain, italy and everyone in nato in europe will understand why we n

this week, the atlantic council's eurasia center released a new documentary on that very issue. here's a quick look. >> as war continues to rage in nearby ukraine, destabilizing the entire region because you could be next and. >> we could be next. >> all of us. >> are thinking that that, uh. >> what happens next? >> can we be the next target? >> joining me now is one of the producers of that documentary, kevin tibbles. he's an emmy award winning former correspondent for nbc news. thank you for joining us. before we get to the documentary, i want to get your take on the latest developments in europe with top trump officials sent to meet with russian officials in saudi arabia. what do you expect to play out here? >> well. >> i thank you very. >> much for having me, paula. i mean. >> the first thing i think we need to. discuss is what is exactly going to be on the table in saudi arabia and whether or not all of the players, at least the players who believe that they. >> should be in the. >> game, are going to be there. and that. is volodymyr zelenskyy. and the people of ukraine. um

jason mazda is vice president and senior director of the atlantic councils. andrianna aust, latin america center joins us now from washington, dc. good to have you with us. so 1st of all, do you think trump is really serious when he talks about the possibilities still on the table of taking the canal by force will present, trump has never st. taking the canal by force. what do you said it was taking the canal back? and that's a reflection of logs in a us concerns as well as concerns buddy. they play as always and jason, but he did say when he was asked by referrals that he couldn't rule out. he's a ministry force or economic pressure, right. spell his inaugural address that he wants to take back to canal. and there was a hearing in the, in the senate commerce committee this past week and which number centers were speaking about different ways to take that the canal. but there, there is a lot of concern both in the us and in panama, about the increasing presence of china around the china. china based company operates of a port, both of them on the pacific side as mos on the atlantic side.

from all of this, this spring in elizabeth broad, she's with the atlantic council. enjoys us from washington. elizabeth, how fall? do you think the nato a mission both essential, can actually go to secure, critical and underwater infrastructure? it was certainly better having as the vessels, the picture of the baltic sea than this, but not having them. and as they, they are visible sign that nature is taking these suspicious cable cat seriously. but nature is also making it a big gamble. nature is dorothy expeditionary force, which is the group of the door ditch april and take congress and the checks and with the similar initiative, they are essentially committing themselves to a significant gamble because they are hoping that monitoring showing that presence in the volt dc realty to whoever it is that is up to nothing good. but the question is what happens if, if the, the, the suspicious paper caps continue? yeah. what kind of monday do they have come, they've just money to come to do something against these things actually happening . they ted, they acted on that's their mandate, does not

years working on the 7 consecutive is rarely prime ministers and is not a senior fellow at the atlantic council. think dec. i asked them if drums controversial planned for guys a waiting line with international law. but how does the demo a certainly going to be in the details. i mean, last night, the president trump gave us the real a as a real performance, very ambitious. it's clear that it's a uh, this plan gallery only one particular issue here is uh, you know, as you implied as a huge amount of resistance. shelby sick of this in the world, in the region closer at hand. the logistics of very complicated and the president has been very clear up until this point, at least, that he's looking to sort of invest less in, you know, boats and treasure and in the middle east and maybe focus on issues at home. so whether or not he actually is going to go through it, that's what it actually looks like. i think there are a whole series of questions that still remain at this point. but new on the basis of what he has said, talking about recycling people out of guys as something of the jordanians and the

the hiring is a senior fellow at the atlantic council was eurasia santa. she says european leaders had been cooled off god. as i'm looking for a couple of things, we have a team of experience russian negotiators and a less experienced team of american negotiators. so i think that's one factor that, that i'm keeping in mind, but i'm listening for security guarantees. so the trumpet team has said that nato is off the table, so i'm looking for what kind of security guarantee the american side would be willing to offer. i'm looking for the russians to talk about the 20 percent of ukraine that they illegally occupied. now, what will the, the legal status of that 20 percent of your credit in territory be? and finally, i'm looking for, i'm looking for the conditions on for, and the troops in ukraine. will america commit to having troops and ukraine will be european commit to having troops and ukraine to ensure that the russians can't attack again. europe has been caught off guard, and europe has been making a lot of promises over the last 3 years. there's been a

entities like the state department's global engagement center, or cut out the think tanks like the atlantic councils, digital forensics, research lab, or counter misinformation, usa i d fundies to sensor the misinformation in that foreign country. so it's not the only india they use your network of free elections. we don't have vision that is supported by one of the consultants in deals the. ringback was in the indian subcontinent. so countries like mine, marcy long the indonesia are all in the lot of song and what is the phone? do you have also expressed a concerns about emerging threats to elect to processes as democracies across asia, face, new, and sophisticated threats to the integrity? it is crucial for the next generation of lead is to have opportunities to help strengthen their home countries. civic institutions and democratic processes, the asian network for free elections and fro as long invested in the future of electoral integrity. by nurturing, young like minded individuals throughout the region. prioritizing the inclusion of youth in conversations around involving the electro processes

oh, michael bo sick you is a global affairs analyst and senior fellow at the atlantic councils. you raise your send to, you joins us now from a desk, so good to have you with us so. so the 1st of all was up fact trump's relationship with zillow and scale. i mean, obviously didn't stock. we've seen tensions before. this verbal exchange, heat it up, right? a yeah, this goes back to trump 1.0 as far back as when trump announced his candidacy. you may recall that put pro, well, a scandal when trump tried to extort mister the landscape, saying you give us dirt on the biden's, especially a 100 by then. and then i'll give you weapons. all trump eventually did go those, those weapons. but there were some verbal exchanges back then, and then even more recently on earlier on in this current administration. and the thing about trump is he doesn't forget people who have either hurt him or up them off or insulted him. so that's what i think. what is planning on right now, and in addition um, as opposed to mr. put 10 who he admires and sees as a strong leader, i think he sees most as a lensky

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i mean, they're in dire straits they're at a war is really costing them and the atlantic council which the advisory group to nato's i mean calling for regime change both china and in russia and that's the that's the agenda for the global elite and capital elite they would like see those changes made. they'd like to see russia open up to capital investment again and. they would like to see a regime change china so that capital was dominant here. i mean china has like 600 billionaires. the difference with being a billionaire in china is you don't get any say in the government unless you're the chinese communist party you can't buy influence here you can buy all the influence you want. so but i we have to locally organize engage with you know the capital in the global issues and oxfam is one of the best places to look for those. and continue to talk about and to rally around it and it in a very ways i don't know if i answered your question not, but that's a tried. you mentioned the an example from the 1930s and i think we have to remember that you know that was only possible because there

he's a nonresident senior fellow at the atlantic council.you, what can you tell us about the attack and what else do we know about the suspect? >> ali, that white car was just towed away only moments ago. it's been sitting here all day since the driver plowed that small white mini cooper into a crowd of pedestrians right at the intersection behind me. now, this was a group of people who had gathered to protest, calling for higher wages. but what's not clear, still, ali, is whether they were targeted because they were protesting or they simply presented a target of opportunity as a group of people who are all together in in a small area. now, he plowed this driver, as you mentioned, a 24 year old afghan. he was seeking asylum here in germany. but officials say they were aware of him. they were familiar with him because of a history of some criminal offenses, including some drug offenses. it's not clear again what his motivation was for doing this, but 28 people were injured, at least in this attack. and as you mentioned, the governor here of

. >> and let me just read something from a think tank called the atlantic council. according to former jordanian foreign minister marwan muasher, jordan's strong opposition to accepting gazans is not an economic security issue, but an identity issue. jordanians of palestinian origin, who constitute a majority of jordan's population, are weary of the kingdom transforming into an alternative palestinian homeland. never mind that actually the law of the land in jordan, as of last week, according to the parliament, is that actually i shouldn't say the law of the land. it's a draft law of the law that they want to be in place in jordan. that would say that jordan's official and popular rejection of any plan to displace palestinians. so he's going to the king right now behind closed doors, is trying to explain to the president what his own not only sort of reality of the numbers are, but also his political reality is. and then at the same time, we can't forget what is happening across the border with regard to israel and gaza and the fact that hamas has now said that they

also with us, andrew boraine, senior advisor at the atlantic council counterterrorism project and executiveector at flashpoint. andrew was a senior official with the office of the director of national intelligence, so courtney munich was already obviously under heightened security for that big conference tomorrow. what more do we know about this attack? >> yeah, i've been at this conference for a number of years now, chris, and it is always one of the ones that has the highest level of security, layer and layer after perimeter of security outside the venue, which is just behind me here. but this year, we may even expect an even higher level of security. so what we know so far is earlier today, a 24 year old afghan man drove his white mini cooper into a crowd of pedestrians at an intersection here in munich. now, the people were gathered there because they were protesting. they were calling for higher wages. but the big question now is, were they targeted because of their protest, or were they simply a target of opportunity for this man who decided that he wanted to cause this, wreak this ha

the foundation for defense of democracies, previously he has been a nonresident fellow at the atlantic councildirector of israel, lebanon and syria research, a research analyst at the foundation for defense of democracies and worked as a staff member on capitol hill providing analysis on matters related to the middle east, israel and iran. he also holds a bachelor's degree in government and history and also a law degree from suffolk university. so that is some of the background information about our guest today. back to your calls. sam is in hillsdale, michigan on the line for democrats. good morning. caller: hello. it is my position that trump wants gaza to build a sandals for the ultra wit -- for the ultrarich. and down the road, the second suez canal. and he wants the crimea for the same thing. he wants to sell the ukraine business so he can build a playground and crimea. so he has a resort on the red sea and the mediterranean. thanks you for taking my call. host: there is no question. let us go to earl on the line for republicans. good morning. caller: good morning and thank you for taking

the foundation for defense of democracies, previously he has been a nonresident fellow at the atlantic councildirector of israel, lebanon and syria research, a research analyst at the foundation for defense of democracies and worked as a staff member on capitol hill providing analysis on matters related to the middle east, israel and iran. he also holds a bachelor's degree in government and history and also a law degree from suffolk university. so that is some of the background information about our guest today. back to your calls. sam is in hillsdale, michigan on the line for democrats. good morning. caller: hello. it is my position that trump wants gaza to build a sandals for the ultra wit -- for the ultrarich. and down the road, the second suez canal. and he wants the crimea for the same thing. he wants to sell the ukraine business so he can build a playground and crimea. so he has a resort on the red sea and the mediterranean. thanks you for taking my call. host: there is no question. let us go to earl on the line for republicans. good morning. caller: good morning and thank you for taking

atlantic. a robust defense industry will make the alliance stronger and create more jobs in europe and north america. allies also met with ukraine in the nato ukraine council, and we are joined by the eu high representative kaia kallas. defense minister umerov briefed allies on the latest developments on the ground. and allies took note of president trump's initiative for peace talks, which secretary hegseth had already outlined in our consultations within the udcg yesterday afternoon. we discussed the importance of our continued support to ukraine. which is crucial so that this brutal war of aggression can come to a just and lasting end. and he discussed the need for european allies and canada to do even more. in 2024, nato allies provided over 50 billion in security assistance to ukraine. nearly 60% of this coming from europe and canada. this is well above the 40 billion that we had pledged for the year. the newly established nato commands in wiesbaden, germany, is at the forefront of coordinating these contributions. this command is now operational and is doing important work. and allies announced new military support packages yesterday and today. this

our fourth hour and contributing writer at the atlantic jonathan lemire member of the new york times editorial board mara gay, president emeritus of the council on foreign relations richard haass, columnist and associate editor for the washington post. david ignatius, the host of way too early ali vitali and nbc news national affairs analyst and a partner and chief columnist at pwc, john heilemann. so a lot of lot of news yesterday, some of it good, some of it good, some of it good. >> some of it good. >> let's start there. >> anytime an. >> american returns. >> home, american who was. >> wrongfully imprisoned returns home. >> that is good news. and that's where we're going. >> to start this morning. before we get to. >> the less good news that american. >> who was. >> wrongfully detained in russia now back on u.s. >> soil, a. >> man named marc. >> fogel. >> he was. >> released yesterday. >> in a deal. >> brokered by president. >> trump's special. >> envoy. >> the 63 year old. >> teacher from. >> pennsylvania was held captive for more than three years. >> he was. >> arrested in moscow. >> back in 2021. >> for traveling with. >> 17g of medical

atlantic covering the white. house and national politics, us special correspondent. >> for bbc. >> news, katty. >> kay, the host. >> of way too early, ali vitali and president emeritus of the council on foreign relations richard haass. >> he's the author of the. >> weekly newsletter home and. >> away. >> available on. >> substack. >> and former treasury official and morning joe economic analyst steve rattner is here. >> and willie. >> was just listening to. >> katty on way too early. >> talking about. >> how donald trump sort of plays it by ear. the people around him talking about how, you know, he will go out, he'll say he's going to do. >> something. >> see how it works out, and. >> then move around. >> anybody that's read the first three pages of art of the deal know that's what he says he does. he shows up in his office, he sits down, he takes phone calls, and he sees how things are going to shake out. i'm sure he also is looking at the markets yesterday premarket trading. and so we get this of course wall street journal talking about how the trade deal is delayed certainly. on mexico and canada. our two closest trade allies. and of course with mexico we got a positive deal. a