companies like atlas pipeline. yields about 7%. that yield is as secure as the transportation of natural gas. onok yields about 5%, and that, again, is is a very, very secure yield. if you really want to be a little more adventurous, maybe play lng, there's a company in california, sempra. they own renewable utilities, they have a lot of natural gas and basically cover the gamut and yield about 3% and they have, i think, a lot of growth in front of them. so that would be one way. i think the best way for the typical person to play it, because you're getting decent immediate income and you're not giving up chances for capital appreciation. >> always a pleasure to talk with you. thank you for being with us. the natural gas gas market is on fire, literally. but video clips like this haven't put a stop to fracking. the number of gas wells in this country continues to grow. coming up, i'll ask documentary filmmaker josh clops what it takes to make fracking safe. hello? yes. i didn't realize i'd be talking to an actual person. you don't