members of the c-suite in the companies that are clearly at issue here as being well intentioned, atriotic, etc. i wonder --and yet they do not want to go where you want to go. i wonder if you could characterize for us the nature of the argumentation that they use, the logic, if you will, of their perspective, and, as you said, one of the wonderful things about a democracy is that people can do that. one of the not so wonderful things about a democracy is that people can do that. and so we get nowhere. so i would be curious if you could characterize for us the point of view, the sort of internal logic that those -- the people that you're dealing with have. and the sound necessary of that point of view even if you disagree with them. >> a good question. i do not want to talk about particular conversations because i want to make sure that conversations are robust. maybe in general, i would trough from some of the questions here and remarks. they are responding to a market imperative where they are getting beat up around the world because the american government is reading everything on your